Better Than a Lease? A Non-captive Balloon Loan Primer

The purpose of this wiki is to consolidate noncaptive balloon loan guidance and help the community better understand this alternative financing option. Anybody, with proper trust levels, can edit this wiki and contribute additional content.

Why Consider a Non-captive Balloon Loan

A traditional balloon loan combines features of a lease, such as low payments based on a residual value, with features of a loan, such as direct ownership. This type of financing is sometimes offered by captive lenders, like BMW and Ford, who brand them “Select” or “Option” programs, and offer them alongside more traditional lease and conventional financing options.

However, here we focus on programs available from non-captive sources, most commonly credit unions reselling a program administrated by the Auto Financial Group (AFG). At minimum, these programs offer another marketplace option, which should be considered and shopped alongside captive programs. At best, given the right mix of market conditions and program terms they can offer compelling options superior to captive programs.

Benefits of a non-captive balloon loan

The biggest benefit of a balloon loan is the flexibility of multiple termination options. At the end of your loan term, you can either return the vehicle, and walk away, or you can keep the vehicle, by refinancing into a new loan product. Unlike a lease, a balloon loan is also titled and registered in your name. Other balloon loan benefits include:

  • Finances a new purchase, capturing rebates only available to cash/retail.
  • Finances a used purchase, including a loan refi or lease buyout.
  • Permits transferring plates and registration, a savings in some states.
  • Excess miles can be purchase for only $0.10 per mile.

Example: Where a vehicle depreciates fast.
When faced with financing a vehicle which will most likely yield negative equity over the loan term, the walk away option keeps your TCO fixed. Consider a short term (24/36mo) with no down payment and focus on finding a low monthly. This is good for many EVs or other heavily discounted vehicles.

Example: Where a vehicle holds value well.
When faced with financing a vehicle which will carry positive equity over the loan term, the buy-out option lets you capture that equity at any time. Consider a long term (72mo) with a down payment large enough to yield the minimum monthly payment to satisfy funding. This is good for rare/exotic vehicles or brands known for holding value.

What Is the Downside of Using a Balloon Loan

A balloon loan carries extra risk. In all cases, the sum of the payments doesn’t bring the loan balance to zero, and a final balloon payment is due. This can lead to hardship as you may be forced to return a vehicle, when you want to keep it, or face refinancing at prevailing rates, which may not be favorable. For most, this risk is manageable but unfortunately balloon loans have a bad reputation. Other risks to consider include.

  • In most states, you will need to pay full sales tax upfront. Consider using a trade-in to offset the tax balance.
  • Balloon loans generally do not residualize options very well. The best build is a base trim level.
  • The interest rate is usually higher versus conventional financing. (to cover RVI)
  • Some credit unions may charge an extra origination fee for high-value vehicles.

That’s right… Walkaway, like a lease

Every AFG-backed balloon loan includes a vehicle return rider. As the market changes, this option can help to insulate oneself from potential depreciation. Returning a vehicle requires paying a small disposition fee, and like a lease, also assess for any extra wear & tear or mileage overages. Examples of the return rider can be found here.

The Right Conditions for a Balloon Loan

Once you have decided that the balloon loan risks align with your personal financial strategy, the next step is to assess if your target vehicle is a good candidate. Most vehicles will not have a competitive program. Research will be necessary to compare payments, and total cost of ownership, across program options. The best way to evaluate a program is by using the AFG calculator, linked later in this article. Focus on finding either a large gap between estimated retail value and purchase price, or a residual value which is way above actual market value. If you do find a good opportunity, act fast, because AFG will change program terms between months. However, once you have been quoted for a program, AFG will honor (lock) those terms for 60 days.

Here are examples where a balloon loan program was useful:

Where can I get a balloon loan

The most common institutional lender offering balloon loan programs is Auto Financial Group (AFG) and they do not offer the program direct to the public. Instead, the program is offered via affiliated credit unions. Thus, most credit unions who advertise a balloon loan are almost always reselling the same AFG program. Some credit unions may call these programs something like “better than a lease” or “payment saver” and may charge different rates and/or fees – but they are all fundamentally backed by the same paper. The below list provides suggested credit union offering this program.

CapEd Credit Union (https://capedcu.com/) Payment saver auto loan product offered at moderate rates across various terms. A one-time donation to the CapEd Foundation permits membership. You can join and apply online, you will be assigned a loan officer who will follow-up over the phone. Can close quickly, great customer service.

First Eagle Federal Credit Union ( Flex Auto | First Eagle ) Low rates with full access to the AFG balloon loan portfolio via Flex Auto program offering. Membership is possible by joining their Financial Fitness Association. Must join as member first, before applying for auto loan. Poor customer service.

Hanscom Federal Credit Union (https://hfcu.org/) Better than a lease auto loan product offered at a generally higher rate than above choices. A one-time donation to the Nashua River Watershed Association permits membership. You can join and apply online, you will be assigned a loan offer who will follow-up over the phone. Good customer service.

AmeriCU Credit Union (https://americu.org/) Paysaver auto loan product offered at low rates and across various terms. A one-time donation to the American Consumer Council permits membership. You can join and apply online, but I recommend pro-actively calling a branch and working directly with a loan officer. Can take longer to close.

Park City FCU ( Loan Rates - Park City Credit Union ) New option offering low rates and backdoor membership by joining a supported non-profit organization. Hard to reach, no first-hand experience. Looking for more feedback.

Another institutional vendor, CULA, is often discussed as another option. However, it appears that these programs are only accessible to dealers and not the general public. These means to access these programs, you must use a dealer from the network.

How Do I Use A Balloon Loan Calculator

  • AFG Default Payment Calculator AmeriCu Calculator Use this calculator first, to determine the loan balance, interest rate and monthly payment for your preferred term. The following calculator is an example setup for a Ford Mach-E purchase in NJ. Since we will not be returning the vehicle, the lowest mileage option has been selected.

  • Balloon Loan Reverse Calculator Balloon Payment Loan Calculator |- MyCalculators.com Use this calculator second, take the data from the previous calculator to solve for the final balloon payment and generate a complete amortization schedule. Where-as the final balloon payment is the buyout at the end of the term, the amortization schedule will provide the buyout for any month in the term. The following calculator continues our example, solving for the Ford Mach-E 24-month final balloon payment.

Acronym’s & Terminology used in this wiki

MRM / CRV / Estimated Retail Value - This is the value of the vehicle assigned by AFG. It is based on the Maximum Residualized MSRP, which consists of the MSRP of the typically equipped vehicle and value adding options giving only partial credit or no credit for those options that add little or no value to the resale price of the vehicle.
Purchase Price - This is the price you can purchase the vehicle from a dealer.
Down Payment - Upfront funds used to reduce the loan balance.
Total Amount Finance - The amount of the loan
Conventional Rate - The rate commonly offered on traditional finance.
Balloon Rate - The rate offered with the balloon product.
Annual Mileage - Mileage affects the residual value of the vehicle.
Residual Value - The forecast value of the vehicle at the end of the loan term.
Balloon Payment - The final payment due at the end of the loan term. Same as RV.
MMR - Manheim Market Report, the wholesale value of the vehicle at a given point in time.

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AFG Hot Sheet for Jan/Feb 2022

This list suggests which new vehicles may best benefit from using a balloon program.

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Thanks for the write up. Looking forward to learning more about balloon payments as I may use one for my next purchase

Not sure if this can be included with balloons, but lightstream allows auto lending without lien on title for up to 100k, LTV values still apply.

Potentially useful for short term flips where you do not want to provide capital and need to purchase the car. Most useful for individuals living in tax on sales price states like MD, VA, TX, etc. as you will be able to flip without the restriction of third party buyouts, and claim EV Credits as long as you are not ‘intending to purchase for resale’.

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Fantastic post and @z0lt3c helped me a lot when I was getting a BL for a Tesla MYP. I used SEFCU since they are one of my local CUs and they have been fantastic. Their rates are still at 2.49% for 24 months and very easy to work with. No hard credit pull either.

If you are in NY, and qualify for membership, it’s a no brainer.

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My favorite balloon program right now is on a 2022 Ram TRX. It already offers a tremendous amount of positive equity, when purchasing from a forum vendor, but if you are looking to hold onto one of these, and not just immediately flip, the MRM offered by AFG, for a base TRX, is just under $92K. Where-as, it’s possible to purchase this vehicle OTD for $69K.

That would put a 24mo payment in mid $500’s.

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I tried your calculators on '23 Defender 110S with $63k sticker/selling price and it also looks attractive, I think. But dunno what the MMR is.

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Really really strong. Just ask @mattevan

Wheels+Air Suspension+Pano though is needed at a minimum to get close to full MMR. Defenders w/o the air suspension often take a :poop: at auction

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Can I do this in CA from an out of state dealer? If so I’m in
Driving trx on a budget sounds too good to pass up

Well, I’m sure MMR is high, just don’t know how high lol
I did order air suspension, but that’s pretty much all. Don’t care about sunroof.

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Which trim, i’ll pull it

Yeah but you need to spec it with it for resale

The 3 main credit unions I recommended, will all work with out of state borrowers. The credit unions I have listed under regional, are in-state only.

TLDR; It varies by CU

Thanks for all this info! Do you have a favorite full size truck that isn’t a TRX?

The raptor :rofl::rofl:

How do you get 69k out the door? Most I have seen 10k, 10-11% off

Mine was $68900 pre price change I think that’s not the case anymore.

Im definitely gonna have to do the Ballon loan for my Mach-E GT order but being in CA, with such high taxes, and no credit for trade-ins, makes balloon loans kinda unattractive compared to traditional leases

Wasnt yours a base? Calculator is for 91K+ MSRP.

How are you getting this for Mach-E? In Ford’s list, only shows Mustang.

And for the TRX, ur getting almost 20k off the the MSRP discount?

Yes was base with some minor add ons before price change.