Toyota BZ4X vs Subaru Solterra Lease Question

[Dystuen]

For leasing in California, the Subaru gets a $7500 tax credit deducted instantly where as the BZ4X does not. Is there any reason why people would get the Toyota in this instance? Thanks

[jeisensc]

@Dystuen

Is there any reason why people would get the Toyota in this instance?

They insist on paying more for the one that does not have all wheel drive??

[Jon]

Doubtful, but the BZ4X may still lease better, depending on the RV and MF. You need to look at the whole leasing picture and not just 1 component.

[IAC]

Glutton for punishment most likely.

[jeisensc]

@IAC

Glutton for punishment

I think their owners do joint meetups at the local Blink chargers

[Jeff_BeachCitiesAuto]

I’m surprised you are debating between these two when almost every other EV in the segment is better…

[jeisensc]

The heart wants what it wants?

@Dystuen the Solterra is also eligible for VIP pricing in the unlikely event you can’t get a dealer to part with one for less than invoice.

[IAC]

Overnight.

[jeisensc]

It’s a car campout every weekend

[max_g]

@Jeff_BeachCitiesAuto

I’m surprised you are debating between these two when almost every other EV in the segment is better…

Real talk…

[Dystuen]

Can you clarify?

My main goal was to lease to acquire the credit and then buy it right after

[jeisensc]

Tips to obtain a SUBARU under MSRP

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Tips to obtain a SUBARU under MSRP

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@Dystuen

My main goal was to lease to acquire the credit and then buy it right after

[Dystuen]

Lol. Care to explain why not?

[rivers2mathews]

Any particular reason these are your choices? This is like choosing between a punch in the face and a kick in the nuts.

[Dystuen]

I figured you can’t go wrong with Toyota. They have reputation of making reliable cars. Maybe I’m wrong? Seems like everyone in this thread is bashing these two

[jeisensc]

Assume the second fix for the whompy wheels actually took: it’s a Gen1 Ev (most competitors have better battery and charging) that was priced for a different market and whose reviews have been at best: meh. If you are 1000% certain you will drive it for the next 10 years, it was just a poor value but who remembers? If you have any hope of selling/trading in 3-5 years, at least if you threw that money in a barrel and lit it on fire you’d get some waste heat.

[Dystuen]

Is the ID4 a better choice than these two?

[jeisensc]

My vote would be yes, others may think differently. If the Solterra was a $299/mo sign and drive for 24 months I’d consider it. The only way I’d own one is if I won it in a raffle I didn’t enter.

[Dystuen]

Thanks for the info.

So much hatred for this car, as if it rolled down a hill and ran over your dog or something

[LeaserOC]

People are being a little harsh. I’ve been in one it’s not that bad. Just needs to be way cheaper to compensate for being outdated the minute it rolled off the factory floor. Just look at the charging spec for both dc and ac.