The reveal is a few days away, so all questions will be answered. 4 more days and either we have the greatest car of all time or the greatest flop of all time.
I think it will be neither. Itâs not poised to be the iPhone of cars nor is it poised to be the Chevy Bolt of electricsâŚ
It will fall somewhere in-between for the average consumer. As people start replacing their cheap leases in 2-3 years from Chevy, GM, BMW, etc. they may jump ship to Tesla.
At least Tesla doesnât have ridiculous pension plans theyâre still paying for and crazy work-stopping bargaining strikes in their historyâŚ
Is the BOLT the quickest GM model to go from launch to fail or does that still belong to Pontiac Aztek?
I had the opportunity to reserve one last year but passed because of the inconsistent finishes on the Model S⌠it being a $70k+ car, I was afraid of what a $35k car from Tesla would look like.
Since Iâve seen other entry-level EVs at or higher MSRPs and what you get (or donât get)⌠plus Elon explaining one cost-saving measure is lack of options meaning you get what you get and not necessarily using ultra-cheap methods⌠maybe it wonât be as bad as I thought it would be.
I think the car will be a hit as long as they can keep the production velocity theyâve projected⌠right now itâs estimating mid-2018 (or later)⌠if they can hit that 1 year mark for newly reserved, I think theyâll do well (by Tesla standards).
Walter White would disagree. 
The Bolt can do 300+ miles under the right circumstances. Mine indicated 355 miles maximum range when I left LA for SD last week. I arrived in SD with about 65% battery and that was doing 75 on I5 with the AC on. I could have easily made it back to LA without recharging but since I drove around SD for 2 days, had to recharge a bit in SD and then again in Irvine on the trip home.
Quote from Jalopnik âŚ
Ever since Breaking Bad began Iâve admired how theyâve brilliantly used the wardrobes, sets and vehicles to underscore and inform the characters. Especially Waltâs Aztek. it perfectly sums up his lack of taste and sad existence.
I think the Bolt could be the next car that sums up lack of taste and sad existence
IMO thatâs overly harsh on the Bolt. I agree itâs not competitive vs the Model 3 and overpriced as a small FWD hatch, but it still seems like a decent car overall.
If Chevyâs product marketing people would let them make an electric AWD crossover that looks like their gas cars I bet theyâd have a hit. You know, like BMW and Volvo are doing. Maybe GM will still beat the Model Y to market⌠The rumor is the Volt may be replaced with something like the CrossVolt concept, which makes FAR more sense given market demand.
Itâs iPhone folks talking about anything but
Lease hacking on model S coming soon
According to UBS
UBS expects wider loss for Tesla; thinks Model S and X demand is slackening
But Langan said demand for the S and X models is slowing, given roughly flat production since the fourth quarter of 2016, the offering of the lower-priced 60D versions, the age of the Model S and rising inventory.
I agreed, but I would say that immediately (or within 6 months) after the release of the Model 3, Tesla will revamp the Model S and Model X with either a refresh of the exterior or interior or better batteries. This will ensure the difference between the low and high end models.
Iâm just curious of what would happen to all the old Model S and Model X with 60kwh batteries (all used of course), they will have to cost less than a new Model 3 because they have less battery capacity and older. The cheapest used one is around $42,500 (according to www.ev-cpo.com). Will it drop into the low $30k range? Model 3 does start at $35k.
I agree that there is nothing inherently wrong with the Chevy Bolt. Weâll see on Friday, but I think the Bolt will be a hard sell when compared to the Model 3. From what theyâve announced so far, the Model 3 will have everything the Bolt has, but much much more for the same price. The only thing that I can imagine will get someone to pick the Bolt over the model 3 is the fact that the Model 3 wonât even be available until the end of 2018 at the earliest for non-reservation holders.
Try getting an insurance quote for a Bolt and then a Tesla and get back to me about them costing the same.
Also, there is no way on earth that even a moderately optioned 3 costs the same as a fully loaded Bolt after discounts etc.
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You may be right, but at this point we have very little data to go by, but from articles Iâve read, the Model 3 is already receiving reasonable quotes for insurance.
As for options⌠again, we donât have much to go by, but if what Elon Musk has claimed so far is true, then it seems a base model $35k Model 3 (before tax incentives) should be on par feature-wise and luxury-wise with a BMW 3-series. If that turns out to be true then a fully loaded bolt wonât even compare to a Model 3. The retail price for the Bolt is actually surprisingly higher than the Model 3, but obviously this is leasehackr, so we know the Bolt is going for considerably less now.
The 3 series comes with basically no options at all in base spec. I think that is a pretty easy hurdle for him to overcome. I am not knocking the 3 at all, but my guess is it will be $200+ a month more to lease than a Bolt. I would even say that a top of the line Bolt and a bottom of the line 3 would be still $200+ apart to lease. I would also guess that it would cost and extra 50% to insure. I donât really think they are a good comparison. I actually donât think there is a good comparison right now.
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2 more days before the reveal/launch party and 1 more month before we see production volumes âŚ
No, I mean I think the Model 3 is a far higher end car than the bolt and that comparing the two is like comparing a Honda with a BMW just because they both have petrol engines, and if the wind is blowing in the right direction you can make thier prices somehow similar. That is why I donât think they are a good comparison.
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That we can definitely agree on. 
Since Iâm purchasing, Iâm really just comparing sale prices, but I definitely get what you mean. Canât wait for the launch on Friday!
Canât wait for the hours to go by! Canât wait to test drive one! Canât wait to see what options will be there! Canât wait to see how much it will cost!! Canât wait until my number is up!
Why is there lots of wait lol???