Agreed. But I can’t understand why some people like the ugly bolt and then bash tesla hehehe
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Or why the Tesla fanbois bash the Bolt so much. It’s like they are afraid or something? Of the totally unsexy Bolt? What’s up with that?
LMAO. So wrong, yet so comical.
I’ll admit, I’m not a fan of the Bolt’s design, but if given the choice, I’d go with the car that’s built from the factory instead of with features downloaded at some point down the road.
You do realize there are car models with zero driver fatalities period right?
Rare and exotic vehicles that one rarely see on the road such as…Audi A4…Honda Odyssey…Kia Sorrento…
“Millions of miles” sounds impressive until you realize 200 cars on the road for 10,000 miles a year is already 2 million miles. The fatality rate for the GM ignition switch recall was probably on the order of 1 death per 15+ billion miles(30 million vehicles recalled, ~120 deaths, average of 60,000 miles driven per vehicle minimum).
Here according to Elon Musk as of October 2016 there was 200 million autopilot miles. So being generous and quadrupling that for today, we’re looking at 1 death per ~500 million miles. That’s at least 30 times more deadly than GM ignition switches.
Maybe the reason the TSLA fans are so cranky is because their TSLA shares have been tanking lately?
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Like I’ve said before, I have never purchased stock in Tesla. Most people are assuming they won’t hit Q1 sales estimates which makes sense.
yea, I didn’t anticipate thread would get so much negative attention being in the Off-ramp section. Was hoping it would just be a happy productive place to discuss Tesla news and not to bash the model 3, Bolt or any other car.
Which, as I mentioned before, has resulted in investor pullback. The guy can’t keep a target, and investors are beginning to get spooked. In theory, they could be insolvent by mid 2018.
Shareholders will vote Wednesday on whether to approve a new $2.6 billion stock option grant plan for Chairman and CEO Elon Musk. Some major shareholders support the plan, but investment advisory firms Glass Lewis and Institutional Shareholder Services both recommend shareholders reject the proposal.
This is what fires up the critics so much. Jesus f’ing christ Elon, just be realistic with your production estimates! And stop the rope a dope tactics continually promising moonshot goals, only to walk those back time after time.
Overpromise, underdeliver is his mantra, while a company like GM’s is “Underpromise, overdeliver”. GM got bit in the ass hard when they fell on their face with initial Volt sales projections. They learned not to lean too forward over their skis since then.
Meanwhile, Elon is attempting quadruple backflips, only to land on his face every time.
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Couldn’t have said it better myself. Spot on.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again…I don’t wish ill will on Telsa, and don’t want to see them fail. Between Musk never EVER hitting a target since Tesla was founded, and rolling out features you pay for at inception at a later date and making them sound like “bonuses” (updates not withstanding…think rear seat ass warmers as an example) is what kills me…and yet, he’s looked at as some Deity.
The sad part is, if he would’ve went about this rollout the right way, slow, methodical and without all the broken promises, focused on top notch quality from the onset, and had a car feature complete before ramping up production to higher levels, he probably would’ve been better off.
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For audio, yes. If you want nav you need to 1) have a smartphone 2) use your data plan 3) connect it each and every time.
That report was 30% of existing Model S/X owners, not in general.
This is a pretty decent article about the shaky ground they are on. It’s definitely not all sunshine and roses, despite how it seems at the moment…
Yep, that’s the saddest part. All the gunshot wounds are self inflicted. His workforce’s production capabilities can’t match the rate of their CEO’s head’s growth.
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Can we stick to Model 3 specific news/discussion please?
This is Leasehackr where we are trying to get good deals. Are you really going to argue against using the car’s built-in, included, and unlimited LTE vs a limited data phone data plan that tacks on charges if you go over? 
I am on a shared plan with 6 lines and a pool of data. I’m sure the rest of my family is glad I’m not eating that up downloading map tiles and real-time traffic every day. (Tbh the real-time traffic is extremely helpful during rush hour).
Never had to use mine, just like you never charge your phone in the car.
You’ve never mapped a route while in your car? We are talking about navigation here…
I have charged my phone in the car before, but I do that like 1 out of 100 trips because I don’t go on road trips too often. But I use the nav literally every time I drive. Not always for actual routing–Often just for the RTTI. It’s there, and doesn’t require any extra steps so might as well.