R/askcarsales threads 💎

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LOL they better than actual detectives. They found out he wanted a vasectomy :stuck_out_tongue: :stuck_out_tongue:

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So Randy had a couple good years to make hay but the sun is setting.

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so we had gwinett and united bmw on the forum previously, must be at one of those

He will be okay. Someone making $250k+ now still knows how to sell and will still be making well into the six-figure range in the future. It still takes skill to get people to agree to pay over MSRP with all those accessory packages. It is the new salespeople making low $100s now that will be in for a world of hurt if anything drastically changes.

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And the brokers that had their pay cut in half during Covid will be back to banging out 100 cars a month again I hope!!! Haha

I prefer volume over all this msrp BS for sure. I work twice as much for half the pay now. Not complaining but I want to get back to my amazing deals on all models

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I really don’t care as long as people are actually serious about purchasing the car. Nothing frustrates me more than someone making an offer but then says “I still need to think about it” when I ask if they are ready to move forward if we get there. I don’t care if it is a stupid deal but don’t make an offer unless you are serious about moving forward.

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Yep if I have someone that says if you can get this price I’ll take it. Then they don’t lock it up, I up the price out of principle when they come back. Nothing worse then that especially when I have to grind the manager down to get the deal. Makes me look like a dick

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What’s the catch here? Pardon my ignorance in sales but I assume this is probably on the top end of the pyramid and you’d to be quite skilled and have a lot of variables go your way? If money were this good, you’d here about it in general knowledge when people were talking about jobs. Most people assume lawyers, doctors, businessman and so forth make lots, but it’s so situational but I’m just talking in generalities.

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Its sales. You’ve heard about the upside in sales before I’m sure. The industry and structure nunaces don’t really matter.

Hard to take these things at face value. Especially someone whose online persona is so full of bluster.

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The average salesperson can barely crack $50k/yr and probably burns out in 4-8 months. Anyone who makes it past that is most likely making $75k-$90k/yr. Anything over $100k is top of the pyramid and anything over $200k is top 0.1% IMO. That is during a typical market. This market has inflated a lot of incomes since most sales people are paid on average 25% (I have seen anywhere from 10% to 40%, and if I was paid 25%, I would be driving around in a new Ferrari) of gross. Example: A Hyundai salesperson who was selling 20 cars before at all minis ($200) made $4000 and lets say another $2500 as unit bonuses. Decent income at $6500/mo. Now, they are selling at $5k over at 10 cars, so $12500/mo. You can see how a talented individual who managed to stay at 20 cars can make $20k/mo easily over the past 2 years.

The catch is that to get there, you work 60-70+ hours a week (apart from the few vets who have a large book of business) with bad/no benefits. Plus you have to have a good pay plan and a good dealer, which is extremely hard and those spots are competitive within the industry. Really, it is a field with a lot of low earners with high turnover and a small, veteran group of high earners.

There has been a lot of chest pounding the past 2 years, but that is typical. Everyone on the internet sells 30 cars a month, holds $10k on the trade, and sells every FI product. All I know is that all the domestic/mass-market brand salespeople have been quieter than usual lately.

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No way???

How tf are they flexing all the new cars they got then with the ridiculous payments?

Above, also no one said salespeople make sound financial decisions.

See exhibit A: GT4 - Talk Me Into This Terrible Decision

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The same way someone in any other industry making the same does. Convince yourself to spend way too much of your income on it.

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Don’t return the call brother lol

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This does not seem worth it

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It really depends on the situation. Working 40 hours at a “country club” dealer is different than busting your ass 70 hours at another dealer. Some of the big shots have sales assistants that do most of their work and they just close deals. But again, that is why it isn’t a job that is sought after even though the return could be huge (the top guy in the country makes just shy of a million per year) because that promised land is so difficult and requires a lot of talent and a bit of luck. Most don’t even make it to a year.

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This is the issue. The ceiling isn’t that insane.

I sold cars for a few summers at my family’s stores. Absolutely grueling work. I did quite well (to the point where my dad had to make clear to the dealer principal, aka my uncle, that me doing this for my real career is not an option and to make sure I didn’t think it was), but holy crap was the work hard. Fun, interesting, but hard.

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It’s almost satirical how out-of-touch you are. Your posts sound like Marie Antoinette trying to enlighten the masses on better career choices.

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