Pallisade/Telluride vs the world

While some dealers have short supply, there are plenty with them in stock. You’re unlikely to get a good deal on an ordered one anyway, so if price is a concern, you should be casting a wide net. Further, if you do order one, and it has an issue, you don’t take it. Not that hard of an issue.

I’ve dealt with unpleasant dealerships on every brand of vehicle I’ve ever had. Ya, mileage varies and some dealerships suck.

Well at least we found some common ground :slight_smile:

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This quote out of context sounds very funny,

“Yeah my car had an issue with a smell inside but it was because the interior is beige so we replaced the headrest and it’s all good now”

:rofl:

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Apparently beige nappa leather headrests sometimes smell like garlic :rofl:

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Running some math, it looks like it should be ~$32k. Guess I’ll have to get a dealer to verify as putting $5k back into my pocket would be nice. Might have to get an e-tron and save some money.

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I just ran my '20 Limited on Carvana and getting a $44k offer. HMFUSA website is showing my payoff to be $43,7xx but I believe that is with NYS taxes…

This is very intriguing! How was your negotiation on the 2nd Palisade? Did you end up doing a '21 Limited or Calligraphy?

Limited, calligraphy is way more and adds very little. SO the whole process was a PITA , I will share it here in case anyone else is in my situation. In Florida HMFUSA wouldn’t even give me my payoff I had to go to the dealer. They wanted to tack on tax and 1K dealer fee and some BS 1K inspection fee to" make sure the car was safe to sell me"

I figured all that was BS and Carvana would not need to pay it and I was correct.

As far as negotiating for new car. I actually got a better discount 9.1% off, however the residual of the car has dropped by two points so I had to take a 48 month lease to get the same payment I have now. I didn’t care as my wife LOVES this car and was pissed when I mentioned I wanted to sell it. However when she saw we can make a quick 6K it was all good. Current deal was MSRP of $47420 selling price of $43064. 2K drive offs of which $1K is dealer fee.

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$564 a month for 48 months for a Hyundai?!? This is truly to each their own…

Just for a quick comparison, I pulled up RobinHood’s broker listings, as he’s at least on the east coast and has an Atlas SEL Premium to price compare to. With matching DAS, on a 39 month lease, the Atlas is $569/mo…

It’s not like the competition here is noticeably better in price.

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That’s 5 grand total lease price difference, that’s a fair chunk of change to be fair.

Sell it now and buy it back when the discount is bigger, then the new Telluride will be even cheaper. :grinning:

Obviously, I’m comparing monthly outlay with a normalized das. It’s totally disingenuous to look at the total lease cost over different periods and say “this one is $5k cheaper!”

I’m not following your math at all. Based on this link RobinHood's MARCH 2021 Volkswagen Deals | CRAZY SPRING PLANS/DEALS! .00001 MFs on Tiguans! and the included spreadsheet SEL premium is $543 for 39 months with $1389 DAS.

Now I’ll admit that I took a ton of antihistamines today as my allergies are acting up, but I can’t figure out how you normalized the numbers between the two leases to make Palisade make any kind of sense. Are you counting the fact that he’s making out $6k on the current one into it?

Don’t forget tax…

Is the tax included in the Palisade picture? I’m sorry, I’m not familiar with how FL tax works or how much it is and whether that picture has it built into DAS or payment.

I am open to suggestions. Please tell me where I can get a 3 row suv for that price with the following features:

V6
Napa Leather
20” rims
600 watt Harmon system
Wireless carplay
Auto leveling suspension
Every safety feature available
Full LED lighting
Heads up display
Semi autonomous driving
Dual pane panoramic sunroof
Heated and ventilated from AND rear seats
Blind spot cameras when signaling
360 camera
Power folding third row

My quote included 7% tax on the monthly payment. That is how we pay tax here.
There are some other small taxes included in the drive offs.

Ok so your full lease comes out to $29k the Atlas that was somehow dragged in here $23.8 and seems to have most of what you need, I’m not going to sift through configuration point by point. And that’s not counting all other cars in the segment, which I’m not even sure you need the segment as your requirement doesn’t list a functional 3rd row. And out of honest curiosity, why do you need auto-leveling suspension as a mandatory feature?

You completely glossed over my post which is the crux if this entire discussion. There is no car near the price of what I paid that comes with feature list. It isn’t even close. Some of the features of the palisade aren’t even offered on competitor models. I think it is disingenuous of you to attack the car so much however when offered the opportunity to prove there is a better option you cannot or will not do so. You just generally say the car is crap and that is not a compelling argument.

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I didn’t gloss anything over. Does anyone need auto-leveling suspension? Most likely not, and when asked what do you need it for, you didn’t answer that either. Do you need a third row to be functional for adults is another valid question that you don’t seem to want to answer. Ventilated rear seats is another one of those features that is very questionable and how often is it used? Do you have 3+ people in the car 90% of the time, or is it 1% of the time? Blind spot camera is literally the most retarted feature in the history of automotive features. Don’t even start with that one. Honda started that BS, and Hyundai decided they needed a gimmick+ version. Does the stereo need to be HK? Or does it need to be 600 Watt?

If you want to compare notes on “disingenuous”, don’t post Hyundai marketing pamphlet and let’s have a conversation on competition with actual needs. You may well be that one 1% of people for whom there is no competition because somehow Hyundai got it exactly right, but somehow I doubt it especially considering the ridiculous premium that they want people to pay for it.

Up to now, the whole Hyundai defense was that it doesn’t lease well, but in purchasing you can’t get anything close. Then you bring in the ridiculous lease numbers, and somehow now it’s compatible in leasing as well?

Most of what you are saying is coditional features and occasional use, while fit and finish (which no matter how you are going to argue is crap on these cars) is permanent. The fact that the engine is while V6 while mated to whatever they used for transmission is pure bland meh and there are turbo 4 bangers that work better even in these applications.

The one feature every review is making fun of as to why does anyone need this pompous slow seat lowering, you are listing as a requirement?