Dealers, when the OP goes away for the weekend:
Let’s be honest, the Aztek is the daddy of virtually every Crossover/CUV we see on the road today. It died for their sins. I fondly remember my dad’s, moreso than his subsequent Buick Rendezvous.
Yall gotta start including links to the threads with these posts. I’m missing too much of the meta
Oh, it is a sight! All the employees at the dealership are holding out their hands in front of me saying “please, sir, may I have some more?” And I say NO. And I slap them around some. I then have to waterboard the F&I person till they sign the contract that I drew up myself. The GM sometimes tries to give me guff, but I smash his nose with the butt of my gun. Everybody jumps. Blood squirts everywhere. Nobody says squat after that. I may get some woman talking smack, but I give her a look like …
I took a little editorial liberty here, see also
My assertion is that if you haggle to the point the dealership is not making any money on the front end and is a break even there is a chance that salesman didn’t make any money for their services of helping said customer, some salesmen are only paid on the front end gross not holdback, warranties, accessories etc. If its a new guy they for sure aren’t making money on CSI and misc money from GM. I never said that the dealership doesn’t make money there’s a lot of ways a dealership can make money…
FWIW most dealerships make their money in service, then used car sales. New car sales is most of the top-line revenue, but barely contributes to net profit.
Ha, exactly!
More money in new car sales than used. More money in service than both.
More money in new car sales than used.
Definitely more revenue, but if there is more gross in new cars than used, it might be time for a new Used Car manager.
No, used cars have always been less profitable (in every dealership I’ve ever worked in). Competition causes margin compression.
Every store makes substantially more on new with almost all brands (there are 2/3 exceptions).
If you aren’t making money selling used cars, why bother. The used car factory doesn’t force them down your throat like the new car factory
For industry wide numbers, @jeisensc is correct.
You can check the annual reports of the publicly held auto dealer companies
Used cars are much bigger thing in the midwest vs major metropolitan areas.
We still make money, just not nearly as much.
The real profit from used cars is from service charging sales full retail for reconditioning.
And the factory doesn’t shove cars down our throat, even pre-pandemic we had to beg for allocation.
The real profit from used cars is from service charging sales full retail for reconditioning.
This is the game of the dealer sucking the profit out before it hits the lot, giant packs and overcharging for recon, less gross to pay out commissions on. Now this thread is sounding like /askcarsales…lol
Here’s a breakdown of how much an unnamed store I’ve worked for in the past would profit (before expenses)
New Car Sales
$1.1M - $1.3M / month
Used Car Sales
$200k - $400k / Month
Service
$3.0M - $3.5M / Month
Service
$3.0M - $3.5M / Month
So this is why my local GMC dealer is hiring a new service advisor promising “up to” 120k yearly…
Service Advisors make bank. There were some master techs at my store making ~350k annually.
Someone explain what that is after SoCal adjustment please!