The range on my I4 edrive40 has been a little disappointing. Right now sitting at 80% SOC with 190 miles reported range. It seems that wheel choice plays the biggest factor here, Msport looks great but range suffers… Range on the IX is much better (no Sport package).
They are out of Solterras except one limited and the discount requires a trade. And only sell to New England. Not sure they’ll still do the deal with one on the lot but there are other dealers around here advertising 5k off.
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Thank you, much appreciated
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They could just be using the range issue as a way in. For a very long time Tesla got away with a TON of BS, but they were left relatively untouched as it would have been a bad look to destroy the only EV option on the market. That’s no longer the case, and Musk got completely out of hand with his behavior. The fact that their CFO was fired, the guy who was rubber stamping complete and utter crap for years, just shows that they may be at the end of their lying rope. I’m just happy that there is a way to discuss EVs without even mentioning Tesla if you don’t want to mention it, as the situation is no longer “if you are against Tesla you are against EVs”
A good start would be having a consistent testing regime for mileage. There shouldn’t be an extra different test one can choose to do that gives different results and then use that for comparison.
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Tesla isn’t done disrupting the market yet and remain the leader in EV sales, I say this as someone who not only drives but also markets and sells it’s most usable competition.
Even as that wanes it appears they will also corner the DCFC market since every other provider even a fraction of their scale has severe teething problems.
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The insiders got out early too…as usual. Their earnings weren’t that bad and Elon saying the economy is effed goes against what everyone else is basically saying on the street.
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Sure. I’m positive if they lower the prices even further they can sell those things, but I don’t think they’ve “disrupted” anything in a very long time, and all of the decisions lately have been from the “how do we make the cheapest POS ever”. I’m pretty sure they are “disrupting” the energy storage, by taking used batteries out of the returned leases and shoving them into powerwalls, but that’s just my personal pet conspiracy theory 
We don’t have a serious player yet because there is no real market there. EA is a compliance operation at best and the other ones rarely even get mentioned anywhere, and if all Tesla is going to have left is the charging network, that’s a utility and will wind up getting regulated as such at some point. It’s also not like Tesla has any control over power generation for the chargers, so they’ll have to pay to providers, who can make it very unprofitable for Tesla or any other operator.
I think it’s time to agree that Tesla pissed away their first mover advantage in a very fertile market, and now that the market forces are not flush with loose cash, it’s having just the same problems as dare I say “just another car company”
I seem to remember fairly recently how several brands (one of our focus brands included) wanted to break off and reject NACS initially and even made publication of their intention to start their own network.
That didn’t last as they saw the writing on the wall. Love or hate them Tesla and their energy ventures are here to stay in whatever iteration best suits them and the marketplace.
If people think that air travel has gotten bad, just wait for the horrors that high speed rail will bring if it ever comes to fruition.
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Accepting NACS is not the same as accepting Tesla charging network. It’s a “for now” thing. No one wants to invest in infrastructure unless government gives them money to do so. So “for now” they’ll all play the Tesla game, just like everyone was just fine giving Tesla environmental credits to shut the government up, and that ship has now sailed.
Here is an example of a proper first mover - AWS. Create an awesome product, corner the market, use the profits to fund all other company expansion.
Tesla formula was create a meh product, brainwash people into thinking it’s awesome, line executive pockets, forget to do anything useful for the company with it.
The future will show, but so far it’s not looking great.
and it does seem that the range issue is just a small piece that everyone is focusing on
Federal Investigators Widen Tesla Inquiry, Company Says - The New York Times (nytimes.com)
It’s about range, FSD and “personal benefits” for execs. Starting to make more and more sense why Zach was fired / quit / ran away, whatever you want to call it.
Has anyone at the DOJ ever owned or driven an EV before? They ALL exaggerate range estimates.
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have you read what actually sparked the issue? Tesla underdelivered by 50 miles in warm weather, while others were all exceeding theirs. It’s the same sentiment that seems to be going around the internet in general. Tesla is the only one that seems to be providing overly optimistic numbers.
I think the issue is that there is no actual testing, and what’s published is what the manufacturer “simulations” are showing.
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The cost to take the new bright line from Miami to Orlando is $160 round trip per person. Not economical at all unless going alone. Even then it takes about the same amount of time as driving, and cost is more. I just don’t see how rail will ever be a feasible transport option.
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Tesla has all these problems yet has moved over 1.4M units, so far, in 2023.
They are still, far and away, the easiest way to transition from ICE to BEV.
I think a few people are still happy with the vehicles.
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GM is joining Ford as they scrap EV targets.
General Motors is reworking its EV strategy in North America and is pulling back from efforts to challenge Tesla’s lead in the US electric vehicle segment amid slowing EV sales growth, rising labor costs, and a bleak economic outlook.
We are also moderating the acceleration of EV production in North America to protect our pricing, adjust to slower near-term growth in demand
The bad news for GM’s electrification efforts doesn’t end here. The automaker said it is also slowing the launch of several EV models to cut costs and is cutting back on EV product spending. Delayed models include the Chevrolet Equinox EV, Chevrolet Silverado EV RST, and GMC Sierra EV.
From a financial standpoint, Barra said in the shareholder letter that GM has work to do to ensure it achieves “low to mid-single-digit EBIT EV margin targets in 2025” given the industry’s changing pricing and demand outlook and higher labor costs.
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Rail in the state it is now, never. Rail in the way US politicians are looking at it, never, rail everywhere else in the world will be just fine while we are waiting for self driving everything.
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And a ton of them went to fleet use by cabs/uber/lyft. Congratulations to tesla for replacing Chrysler 200 as a got to cheap disposable car.
So more like a Prius in usage as cabs and volume of sales, but a little faster
And less space, and less comfortable than a prius (yes I said it), and when it comes to cabs, who cares how fast they are? In major metro areas what’s the top speed for a cab, 27mph One of my friends got a Tesla and was drilling a hole in my head about how fast it is. He lives in NYC with 25 mph speed limits and traffic that doesn’t even allow that most of the time.