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if it makes you feel any better i got an EA charge today and i don’t even have an electric car.

Business as usual was my point…

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Was EA her initials? lol

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This seems to track with the deals we see on LH here:

https://electrek.co/2023/10/22/ev-leases-sub-400-month-ioniq-6-solterra-niro-mini-more/

I’m really tempted by the Solterra.

Sat in a BusyForex at the OC Auto Show and it’s not too bad. I like the higher ground clearance compared to the other crossover EV SUVs and the mid-trim Limited for Subaru has the 360 cam.

I wish the Ariya deals were still around because it’s between that, the BZ/Solterra and the ID.4.

out of the 3 listed, why would you just not go straight for ID.4? Nissan just sucks all over, and BZ/Solterra are like EV beta made just so everyone will leave Toyota and Subaru alone for not having EVs on the market.

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Have to go to Pro S Plus for the 360 camera (never confirmed if it has that now because of the on/off again stories) and of those 3, when I sat in the ID4, seemed the least roomy (or maybe tied with the BZ/Sol).

I actually liked the Ariya the best… roomiest interior (subjective) and lots of features. I think it or the BZ/Sol have the slowest charging.

ID4 has the best free charging program (if you don’t mind EA).

The BZ/Sol was never in contention until the recent low Solterra lease deals (I think for the trim/features. the Limited is better than any current ID4 lease deal).

Don’t forget you need at least the Evolve+ (3rd trim) for the 360 cameras on the Ariya (52k)

I hated the Solterra, when sat in the car I couldn’t easily reach the shifter.

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ID4 hands down

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Yeah… I was working numbers on this trim back when Nissan had better deals and it was favorable compared to the ID4 Pro S Plus (what is the deal with iPhone trims?).

I wouldn’t mind an ID4 Pro S Plus if there was a deal comparable to Solterra Limited leases I am seeing.

Sadly… none of these 3 have true one-pedal driving but at least they have Auto Brake Hold (not sure about the BZ/Sol).

I’ve got about 1k miles of driving on a Premium Solterra and if I like it. Maybe I like it because I pay $162 a month and anything that cheap is likable (and dealers in MA apply the $3500 state rebate at point of sale now to help get there). But it’s genuinely a better ride and similar room to the Rav4 Prime.

One pedal driving requires the battery to be a little drained and for you opt in with a button push (and it resets with each time you turn the car off). There’s no glove box and the premium trim is Subie basic. But if you have access to your own charging overnight it’s a great 2nd or 3rd car.

Inventory around here is dwindling a bit, no idea when the 24s arrive and dealers didn’t really order these once they started to sit.

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Hi, what was the msrp discount you got? If you like to other details, mf, mileage per year, that would be great. Thanks

Sure. Base rate and $6k off sticker. 3yrs 10k a year.

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I’d say screw the 360 camera the ID4 is an awesome car… I have the RWD Pro S. The charge rate is like 180kw… you are lucky to get 80kw in a Solterra. The Nissan isn’t bad for sure but FWD in an EV is a no-no. Test drive both and you’ll see… the ID4 rides way better then the Model Y and others.

How convenient. :thinking:

They’ve had 10+ years or more to do something with this (And really this seems more like a consumer agency issue) and only when one of EM’s other ventures is a thorn in the side of the MIC/Establishment ghouls does it matter.

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They should probe basically every advertised mpg too. Never got remotely close to any stated. But pretty sure this is just a vendetta.

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6k is great. Most i have seen so far. Thanks. Is dealership something you can share?

Any EV is probably a better ride than a 3/Y. It’s one of the reasons why we switched from our Y.

We have a FWD EV and it’s fine. I’m not a racer so I guess I don’t notice the difference.

Since the Sol doesn’t have a good free DCFC program, charging at home won’t need a fast rate, it will be just a local commuter anyways.

But we can wait. Would have to get rid of another car anyways and with peak insanity over, trades are harder to come by.

Looks like the i4 35e and 40e are similarly efficient with the main variable being the usable pack size and charging time to cover the same distance.

This is on 77% on a 4,500 mile car.