2017 Jaguar FTYPE Base

Interesting deal. I wonder if it can be negotiated down another $50-60/month… essentially $2k less from msrp

Yes, definitely interesting deal. It would be a no-brainer at ~$445-450 w/CA tax included. (if able to get a bit more shaved off from msrp as you stated)

I don’t think you will be able to get anything more off of it right now. Possibly when the refreshed 2018’s start moving out but as of now the deal posted above seems to be the bottom line.

Are you suggesting better deals may be ahead if ones not in a rush? The comments on the thread make it seem the #'s on the OP don’t come around often for Jaguar. Is this similar to the Ghibli offer in October (Anaheim/Jstar) to jump on with no questions? Thoughts?

Typically better deals will arrive as the new model year comes in (especially a refresh version). Jaguar always seems to have a lot of great rebates and offers going around constantly too so I wouldn’t be too concerned. If you can hold off for a few months I would say ~$50 less per month is a pretty realistic goal.

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If you are not in a hurry, then you just wait and “jump” on a deal. Be ready with your Tier 1 credit & MSDs. That is how I got into the Maserati deal – I was just waiting (I didn’t even know about this forum then). Like I said in my previous posts, through some crazy sequence of events, I ended up driving my dad’s old 2008 Camry for 9 months (previous 20 years my daily driver are Porsches) so “not in a hurry” means different things to different people.

However, everything is negotiable and if you are not in a hurry, good things happen.

There is another thread on this forum where somebody @mplin got a pretty good deal on a Maserati with some negotiation (Anaheim Hills). It wasn’t the same as the $488/mo but he got ALL the options he wanted and dollar-for-dollar, it was close enough to still be a good deal. The $ off MSRP is really what makes most deals work.

With the F-Type, nobody wanted to do the @atomhawk deal. Anaheim Hills Jag was saying maybe $1-2k off if we come in but not $9,000 so we just waited since we were not really in a hurry (our motto is “the cars will always be there”) Todd @ Rusnak was on vacation (I think) so he just saw our request in Jan and he said he could do it. My brother ended up getting it the next day. I don’t really know much about the Jags, specifically the F-Type so we don’t know if there will be rebates or deals or anything. All we knew is that if we could get $9k or $10 off MSRP, we can get the payment to around $439.73 + tax

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Thanks, makes perfect sense! On a side note, do you recall if Jag accepts MSD’s?

No MSDs on Jaguar…

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OP,
What was the total drive off cost? You only mentioned the cap reduction

Edit- nevermind. You mentioned few posts later that it was $3000 drive off $481.50/m (CA tax incl).

That is essentially ~ $550/m tax incl. with $0 drive off. If this could be had for $480-500/m with $0 drive off, i would say its an excellent deal.

How do you get a $0 drive-off? Are those the VW sign-and-drive? Do you roll all the fees (destination, doc, acquisition, first month payment) into the monthly?

$0 drive off seems different than $0 down.

$0 down is possible (the deals here are around $1,800 down) but I doubt that $0 drive-off is possible as there will be some money “due at lease signing” – at the minimum first month and tax

You can capitalize anything including taxes and first month payment. It just doesn’t make a ton of sense to pay tax on nontaxable items such as first month payment, registration, etc. I ordinarily only roll in the acquisition fee since it is taxable anyhow.

Also wanted to point out that this is a US Bank deal.

No swapping of leases (to others) and obviously no MSDs.

Lastly, on waiting for the “right time”- residuals move around a bit. I see the 69% residual as more of an anomaly more than a regularity. If a deal hits your price range, just pull the trigger. The '17 base coupes come in finite qty - you may just want to grab one before they are all gone.

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$0 down means no cap reduction
$0 drive off means no down/cap reduction, no 1st payment, no taxes, etc. sign paperwork and drive home

Didnt think of this. Good advice :+1:

Another thing to point out is that the US Bank deals don’t qualify for Jag rebates. Different bank and all. The high residual for 3 year term is pretty strange to me which is what made this a good deal… most are in the low 60s (BMW, MB, etc…). Also keep in mind that the 2018 “refresh” is very cosmetic and minor. I would say if you can get another $2k off… it’s a steal… I am very pleased with this deal for the amount of car you get. People pay more for 4 series than this.

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From what I recall while researching this (prior to @atomhawk deal) - I think they move the MF and residual % around to balance it out. So if the MF goes higher, they also move the residual higher and vice-versa. I think I saw somewhere here during mid-2016 where the residual was lower but the MF was also lower.

If the lease is through US Bank, can you still sell, buy out, or trade the car in to Jag or other dealers prior to lease end?

How are Jags with lease return (wear and tear)?

he has not responded to anyone as of late it seems

I should have defined things better.

Reassignment of lease to another person/entity is not allowed. Think Leasetrader / Swapalease.com type of deals for this scenario.

Purchase and buying out the lease is always available. Your most recent question applies to this second case. Buying forward lease / lease loyalty programs (as in they’ll eat 3-6 months remaining months if you lease another vehicle) usually are offered by brand specific FS (aka MBZ Financial or BMW Financial).

I’ve never returned a Jaguar, but most of the European cars are now moving to a 3rd party inspection process. Wear and tear is also typically defined by the bank. US Bank’s definitions are pretty standard in that tires need 4/32 tread, dings, scratches no larger than half a credit card in length, etc etc.

Thanks for clarification

If the lease is through US Bank, and say around the 2yr mark of a 3yr lease i want to trade my car into the Maserati dealer for a different vehicle, will US Bank allow this as normal manufacturer supported leases do?

Hopefully someone here has experience turning back a Jag after the lease is up, Im interested on their lenientcy