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thank you
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To me its like hostage and money exchange. Who has to sign first lol
When all else fails, lowball. Eventually someone will say yes.
Will they? The last few months Iāve been completely ghosted by every dealer Iāve attempted to low ball. Maybe I just havenāt low balled enough dealers 
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Low-balling is a dangerous sport. I personally found that the rare acceptance isnāt worth the occasional credibility loss and perceived disrespect.
Sure thereās a possibility Iām just not that good at the sportā¦
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I may have a fake email that I use specifically for low balling 
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Ugh did I accidentally low ball you too 
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lol - No but you did blowout some dealer w/ EP monies some time back.
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Hah. Serious question - are you finding negotiating any differently recently?
Iām beginning to feel like Iām trying to sell THEM something. Very poor communication and almost no back and forth. More of a āhereās our number, take it or leave itā.
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Best prices up-front? The thing customer have wanted since cars were built?? How dare they.
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It just sounds like no one wants to make a deal lately. Getting crap offers over and over. Gotta make those profits
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Best price is subjective.
What is best price for dealer is not necessarily the best price for me.
In this context I assumed best price meant the lowest the dealer will go before telling you to kick rocks.
A sale is made on every call. Whoās buying?
Iāve had a Sales Manager tell me in straightest face that MSRP is the best price. And I had to agree that in fact it was the best price for them.
Iāve never been dumb or naive enough to ask for a ābest offerā. Best is relative. Every dealer has a different cost structure and different business practices and different motivations.
Also not the guy above trying to get 24% and looking gift horses in the mouth.
Iām running into walls negotiating what I consider to be very mediocre deals. Very reasonable counters are ignored, thereās little to no follow up from sales people once I reject the initial offer, and Iām left feeling like they must not really need to sell any cars or connect to any serious buyers. The auto market is sagging so the attitude Iāve seen the last few weeks is surprising to me, thatās all. Maybe itās a regional thing or just the dealers Iāve worked with so Iām curious if anyone else has noticed a shift in the last few weeks/months.
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Itās the beginning of the quarter but thatās usually something the manufacturer is more worried aboutā¦ But yes, Iāve noticed this too. Perhaps preemptive bracing for the usual end of year bloodletting.
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