Shoot for that. I’d love to hear how that goes.
Sure, will let you know 
Meantime, I have “if I can get you 20% off MSRP on a lease, you are telling me we have a deal?” on a V90CC T6 loaner (before incentives). Interested? 
My intention was to quote you as suggestion for jimmcdon. I’m just saying that 10% in norCal is pushing it really hard. SoCal, who knows. Throw in a demand for a 0.00022 MF and $695 acquisition fee, and let the fun begin!
I know, did you see the smiley? 10% should be the target, while 8-9% is still a good discount on XC, and 11-12% or more (we know it happened last December) may be doable on sedans.
Yep. There’s a lot of ingredients that go in the cake. One dealer’s advertising could be 1% or so more or less of the MSRP than another’s. How much support money a dealer gets depends on their SSI scores, CSI scores, and hitting training and 360 (lease return purchase) objectives. Then there’s performance bonuses or other incentives, which aren’t published anywhere. On top of all that is the motivation and craziness factor of the sales manager or general manager, not to mention the mistake factor.
@mani_is_kool - happy to amuse. I’m generally happy to butt heads now and then.
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I was lucky to get the S60 deal. I could not replicate it two years later.
Question… seeing some loaners that might be interesting. What does a dealer demo/loaner do to the numbers? @KD6-3.7 I’m guessing you have this right of the top …
Had a chance to visit Volvo Palo Alto, sat in a fully loaded s90 and the 2018 s60. The wife thinks the s90 is too long(but really, really nice), like a limo. She also loves the xc60 but don’t think we are going to get the deal I"m looking for on that one.
A demo/loaner should reduce the price because the car has been used. How much it reduces the price depends on the dealer, how much they got from Volvo, and how much they wrote the car down on top of what they got from Volvo.
I would suggest using a lease on a new car as the benchmark to determine if a lower payment on a demo/loaner is worth it. An S90 can be sexy if you qualify for A-Plan or can get a huge discount on a new one or demo/loaner. The XC60 is not the droid you’re looking for.
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I just leased my third S60 in a row… a 2018 AWD Inscription Platinum, with nyclife’s help.
It’s a great car, and the adaptive cruise control is amongst the best of any car.
Yes. I would have loved to wait and get the 2019 new model S60 but my lease was up and I needed to have a car.
So if you can wait, wait!
But if you can’t, or don’t want to, you won’t be sorry with the 2018.
You are a glutton for punishment 
Except for the new Volvos or a Tesla, there isn’t a car I’d rather have.
Snarkyness aside.
Having been a 2 time Volvo owner myself, and having really considered the XC90 after the lease on the S60CC was up, I understand their merits but not for the price they charge.
eg their 36k MSRP XC40 leases for 450+ a month. BMW’s 36k MSRP X2 is at 350 a month. Really Volvo?
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Supply and demand. The XC40 is a full pop car, probably for 6-12 more months.
That was my thing with Volvo as well. I test drove the S60 about a year ago and actually liked the ingress/egress better than the s90, but couldn’t hack a deal for under 300/mth on a 38k s60, the residual was so bad. For a few dollars more I could have a 61k T6 S90 with all of the new tech. The inner miser in me could not pass up that “value” whether it was perceived or not.
Yes, same here. And roof on the S90 seems lower.
Have a 2015 s60 inscription, 36mo/10k paying $310/mo including tax,zero drive off in SoCal. Thought it was a steal at the time.
Hate the Nav system, it’s a bad rotary input, not touch screen, is it improved? Can do pull ahead but not sure I want another s60. What are the deals now in SoCal?
Can you give us numbers Weedy?
In NY
2500 total DAS
$411 36 months/ 15k miles
That’s for inscription platinum AWD