Very Bad BMW Dealer Experience

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I built a 2023 BMW 540ix from a BMW Dealership in the state of Illinois about 2 months ago and it finally arrived last Saturday. The agreed terms were 10% off MSRP, Lease Loyalty (According to CA thats $1500 credit + 0.00125 MF Rate), $1500 lease credit, and College Grad Program. This was all approved prior to ordering the car.

My CA calls me on Saturday and tells me my car arrived at the dealership. I was supposed to fly in and drive out with it on Monday, but I changed my mind since I decided to get it transported. So I texted him to get started on the paperwork. He leaves me on read, no big deal - they were probably busy on Saturday.

Monday, CA calls me and tells me okay I will need insurance and a pic of your driver’s license. I had those sent over to him in less than two hours. He calls me a bit later and tells me the Sales Manager that’s in the office today doesn’t want to sign off on this deal because we are not making any profit on the car. This caught me by surprise because why would the heck would they approve the deal in the first place, make me wait 2 months, and then tell me sorry, we can’t complete this deal because we’re not making money on it. So I ask him what now? He replies, we have to wait until tomorrow afternoon until the other Sales Manager (the one that initially approved it) comes into the office. What would have happened if that manager left the dealership, am I out of luck then? I’m pretty upset at this point because it sounds like they won’t honor the deal, but it’s not a big problem. I decide to wait it out. He then goes over the lease quote again with me and leaves out the $1000 college grad credit. I ask why him why is that not included? He replies, I don’t know man it’s not on the lease quote, which shows only $3000 in rebates. I explain to him that at the time of ordering, my college grad credit was approved and verified but they couldn’t include it on the quote for some reason. He starts pushing back, tells me I don’t know I sent you a lot of quotes and that if we really did approve it would’ve been included in the rebates. He finally agrees to look into it and get back to me. Pretty annoyed at this point, because they’re trying to change the terms of the deal.

Tuesday, CA contacts me saying the Sales Manager agreed to the deal and now the Finance Manager is looking at it. About an hour later, he calls me again and tells me hey just a heads up the Finance Manager is giving me heat on this deal because of no profits and he might not sign on it. I got angry and told him what they’re doing is bad business and unacceptable, especially since it was approved by finance. He tells me hey man I have nothing to do with this, I’m just trying to work this deal out for you, I need you to not make a fuss about this, and let’s just wait and see what happens. I’m super angry at this point because they’re being super difficult and seems like they’re trying to back out of the deal. Couple hours later, he sends me a text saying the Finance Manager finally approved it and is now going to send you the contract. He was supposed to call me, never did, and just sent me the docs to sign. I read over the contract, the registration fees are higher than what they had told me, MSRP discount is less than 10%, and college grad is not on there. I call my CA asking why the college grad credit isn’t on there and he explains that it isn’t stackable with the 0.00125 MF, only with the 0.00145 rate. Can someone please confirm if this is actually true? I then ask to speak to the Finance Manager regarding registration frees and he tells me call the main line and ask for his name. I call, I get forwarded and put on hold, no answer, and so the receptionist asks for my name and phone number to leave him a message. No call was returned, so I call again after an hour, same thing, no answer. I then decided to sign the contract because I really didn’t want to go through arguing with them again. It was a difference <$1000, I didn’t care that much and just wanted to get the car. I then call my CA to see if the car can now released for transportation and he tells me we have to wait for funding from BMWFS. Three hours later, the dealer is apparently not funded yet, and it will have to go to Wednesday.

Wednesday, my CA is out of office as that’s his day off. I call the main line, request to speak to the Finance Manager - I get put on hold and then sent to his voicemail. So far, he hasn’t returned any of my calls from Tuesday, and now this call. I call a few hours later and speak to sales. I ask one of the salesmen in the office to go talk to the Finance Manager and get me an update on the car. Apparently they reached out to my CA and so he calls me saying the deal still has not been funded yet. Wednesday goes by, I request another update from the salesman and he tells me there are no updates. Is this even possible? Could it really take two days to get funding from BMWFS? If so, how do people go the dealership and drive out with a lease same day?

I’m now just waiting for this “deal to be funded.” Their behavior has been very questionable since the beginning.

You’re better than me. I would’ve walked away as soon as they gave me the runaround about not honoring the initial deal. Folks like that don’t deserve business.

Maybe they were pissed you changed from picking up in person to shipping? Not sure why that’d be an issue though, since the shipping would be on you.

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Deals do not get funded within hours of signing. It’ll take closer to a week before being approved and funded by BMWFS.

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Secret is, many ppl drive off without the deal being funded - for cars being shipped dealers will want you to wait till the deal funds to reduce chances of fraud and losing a very expensive asset.

Having you in person reduces the chance of fraud significantly.

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I guess that you didn’t walk away is why dealerships do this stuff.

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Precisely this. I would have walked immediately. They know most people won’t and they grind you down and this is what you get. I am sorry but you invited this situation by playing their games.

Now with that being said, unfortunately this story is par for the course. People think they will get treated better at a BMW dealer. All that means is they will give you a fancy coffee before they try to completely screw you.

I worked in IT leadership at a major automotive retailers corporate headquarters for two years. These tactics are taught. It’s not an accident that this crap happens all the time. The only way it will ever change is when people stop accepting it as normal.

I know people want the car. This is part of the obsession with instant gratification that leads to so many bad financial decisions.

I implore you to please walk away from these people. There are brokers on here that can get you a better deal with no shenanigans.

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Just to address the reg fees: don’t worry about that. They can’t mark up gov fees. If the reg costs less than they charged you, you’ll get a refund.

As for college grad, why not give BMWFS a call? They may give an answer, of course they may say “ask your dealer.” But, really, the dealer has no reason to not give a rebate you qualify for since it doesn’t come from them.

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OP said the deal is funding, the damage has been done AFAIK. Just enjoy the car, but learn from this experience to walk away, even if an ordered car. BMW will send out a survey e-mail in a few weeks, use that as an opportunity to express your dissatisfaction.

IMO, unless it’s an absolute steal of a deal, I’d walk. Even then, I would be micromanaging them.

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Part of prep work before seeking a lease should be knowing as many of the possible numbers ahead of time. Tax and registration are two things the dealer doesn’t control, they are fixed by state and/or local government. Knowing the right numbers prevents dealer from screwing it up and then the deal changing at last minute.

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Thursday update: texted my CA for an update on funding and he tells me the Finance Manager told him Friday at the earliest. Didn’t buy their bs, I called up BMWFS and they confirmed my account is active and the dealer was funded early in the morning. I called my CA telling him the deal was funded. He tells me ok I will let my Finance Manger know. He calls me back a bit later and tells me the car can be released now (god knows how many additional days they were going to make me wait). Had a driver pick it up and now it’s on the way to me. Anyway, they lost me and everyone in my family as customers.

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Looks like it took exactly a day to get funded btw

It was my first time leasing, so definitely a learning experience. Next time I’ll make sure there’s agreement on the terms and I’ll go in person to pick up.

I highly highly doubt this dealer would refund me had they overcharged lol

Everything you said is unfortunately true. To be honest, I would have walked away, but I had already waited two months and really wanted my custom build, so I was forced to accept their bs

Well off you go filling out a nice survey :eyes: :eyes:

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I’ve leased 2 BMWs out of Macon, GA (going outside Atlanta metro & Florida where I live - Florida dealers are the worst). Have gotten 2 great deals (there is no such thing as “a great BMW deal”, they’re all just acceptable). If you bail, go those guys. Super transparent, no BS, & will deliver without issue.

Do you have any of this in writing with signatures? I have ordered several BMW Porsche etc all with agreed pricing/terms in writing and signed by sales/GM. Never had a problem.

No doing so involves fines/penalties/potential lawsuits/audits. Sure, they COULD keep it, but it would be beyond dumb to invite those consequences for a few bucks. I almost always receive a refund check with my plates and registration from a dealer. Very few seem capable of charging the correct amount up front.

It takes a week by BMWFS? Really?
It takes a day to get funded on MBFS. Of course, I am on Mercedes side, but never heard of the Finance Company taking a week for a deal to get funded.

The only thing that I will say here is that waiting for funding before shipping is legit. Dealers need to protect themselves against fraud if the buyer never actually comes in.

The rest of your experience sounds like garbage, and was designed to just squeeze more out of you. Finance managers don’t need to “approve” deals, they need to ensure everything is accurate, but finance managers don’t generally get a veto on an accurate deal that they don’t like.

That being said, ultimately, if you wound up around 9% off on a loyalty lease, that’s a solid deal in the end on par with what brokers can do, if it’s any consolation.

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