mp11477
August 12, 2018, 1:18pm
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According to Road and Track, you get about 3 laps before the car starts limiting output to protect itself. Remind me why the M3 is a worse track car?
DanCar
August 12, 2018, 1:52pm
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https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-cars/road-tests/a22625274/tesla-model-3-performance-track-test/
0-60 in 3.3 seconds, compared to M3 at 3.7 seconds, so slow.
The brakes are bigger, 14 inch two-piece bimetal rotors and four-piston fixed calipers up front.
this all-wheel-drive 3 launches from a standstill like a rifle shot.
a delightfully quick and talkative steering rack, makes Teslaâs smallest sedan corner intuitively, with excellent suspension compliance and minimal body roll.
The data predicted that, after roughly three full-speed, perfect laps, the car would gradually start pulling power, hitting equilibrium at a pace about two to three seconds off the absolute quickest lap times the car is capable of. âTwo, three seconds, thatâs equivalent to driver error,â
Our experience matched his predictions. After three or four laps, the hard slap of the Performance Model 3âs acceleration slowly began to dissipate. It was always gradual, workable, not a sudden loss or change of performance. A few cooldown lapsâor 20 minutes parked in the pits while we ran our backup carâand the thing would bounce right back to full power, no drama involved.
Is this a limitation? Sure. But itâs one weâve experienced in plenty of internal-combustion cars.
mp11477
August 12, 2018, 1:55pm
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And the M3 catches up here.
michael
August 12, 2018, 11:11pm
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Temporarily locking thread to delete off-topic Off-Ramp posts.
Edit: Reopened. Scrolled through 250+ posts and stopped at August 1. Good work yâall.
vhooloo
August 13, 2018, 3:11pm
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I guess the Saudis want a monopoly on the car industry. Either you use Saudi Oil for your ICE or you buy a Tesla from them (soon to be Saudi owned private company)?
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mp11477
August 13, 2018, 3:37pm
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Does the energy minister then become CEOâŚ
Khalid A. Al-Falih, (Arabic: ؎اŮŘŻ اŮŮاŮŘâ ḪÄlid al-FÄliḼ born 1960) is Minister of Energy, Industry and Mineral Resources of Saudi Arabia and chairman of Saudi Aramco. He has previously served as the Saudi Arabian Health Minister and Aramco's CEO.
Al-Falih was born in 1960 in Dammam, Saudi Arabia, where he was also raised. He attended Texas A&M University, earning a bachelor's degree in mechanical engineering in 1982, and later pursued an MBA at the King Fahd University of Petroleum and Minera...
vhooloo
August 13, 2018, 3:59pm
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Will women no longer be allowed to drive Teslas? Oh I forgot, the Saudis just recently lifted that ban âŚ
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mp11477
August 13, 2018, 6:38pm
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Elon Musk Hands Teslaâs Wheel to Saudi Arabia
He just gave the worldâs biggest oil producer dangerous leverage over his electric-car maker.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-08-13/elon-musk-gives-tesla-s-wheel-to-saudi-arabia
Dude gets his new Model 3, rear bumper falls off after a rainstorm. If slashing wait times means such poor QA, maybe it wasnât worth it to start building the cars in tents.
Not just a one-off either:
Keeping body panels on a vehicle during bad weather is a problem thatâs been solved by the automotive industry for years. Dunno why Tesla canât do it.
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Thatâs brutal. You must be a shill. 2020202020
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mp11477
August 13, 2018, 8:35pm
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Remember when it was reported Tesla build quality wasnât badâŚ
mp11477:
They need to figure out how to produce cars with good fit and finish and without other various flaws that fanbois overlook but a traditional car shopper would be critical of first.
DanCar:
That is just spreading FUD. Show me where it says that in TMC forum? There are individual cases, just like any car has. And there was an abundance of issues early on. You can decline a car on initial inspection if you donât like what you see.
Keep in mind that Tesla Model S has highest owner satisfaction of any car, second is Porsche.
DanCar:
Yes, again as far as I can tell those are old reviews, not new ones. Post something new with that info. Or even old with pics or video, and we can talk about exaggerations. The tear down video by Monroe is one example. Says he can barely get a fingernail in between gap on one side of a trunk gap and the other he can get a thumb in, yet if I look at the gaps, I donât see that big of a difference.
DanCar:
Take your negative glasses off and look at recent reviews. Yes, there were issues that have been fixed. Post something negative and we can look at the date versus the ton of recent reviews that say cars look perfect.
This isnât a bash, it is flat out reality. And yes all cars have production flaws, most people arenât nit picky enough to notice them. Some will care about a squeak they heard over a bump, some wonât. Some will care about missing paint in the wheel well, others wonât. Some can tell the difference between white on the metal body paint versus white on plastic bumper, some canât.
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mp11477
August 13, 2018, 8:54pm
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Even worse than bad build qualityâŚyou canât find the parts to fix the problem.
vhooloo
August 13, 2018, 9:02pm
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Thank God the Saudis will bring their deep manufacturing expertise and experience to the table
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Ursus
August 13, 2018, 9:04pm
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I missed your wit. Did you turn in your CC?
vhooloo
August 13, 2018, 9:46pm
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Yes CC is out of the driveway. Nice car but the closest the dealer came was $300 a month on a loaner S60 inscription as replacement ⌠So no more S60 for me
max_g
August 14, 2018, 12:43am
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I feel bad for the people who work there. Presumably good people with a motivation to make a game-changing product. But they surely donât want this circus overhanging their careers.
Itâs pretty well known in the tech industry that Tesla and SpaceX have long hard hours for the engineers, with mediocre compensation. Still, they continue to attract bright talent simply on the merit of their innovative products.
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