Shouting match with dealer over Kia lease selling fiasco

I have a 2021 Kia forte GT-line in very good condition with 4.7k miles on it. My lease is expiring in about 4 months. The current residual is 14.9l. I went to two dealerships and I was able to negotiated and sell my Kia for 20.5k HOWEVER

A. Dealer A claimed that Kia charges them 2k when they buyout leases. So instead of 5.6k in my pocket (20.5 - 14.9), I would end up with 3.7k (20.5 - 16.9).

B. Dealer B said that the rule above only applied if you were trading into a non-kia dealer. So I should end up with (20.5 - 14.9), 5.6k. However when I asked for the exact amout that I would be pocketing in writing, they got mad, said “you can do simple subtraction” and said “if you don’t like it go somewhere else.”

So what’s the issue?

You are free to go somewhere else and it probably would be wise to do so any ways

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My issue is I don’t know what’s correct? Is that a legit thing or was I being scammed? If they’re just making up fees or is this standard practice. I don’t want to go somewhere else and have the same issue

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Not sure but maybe you can reach out to these people and see the numbers they give you. They are on leasehackr. There are others who buy cars but not sure where to find them on the website. Maybe someone else can find them.

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Not uncommon. VW definitely gives a discounted price for VW dealers.

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But why would this apply is both were Kia dealers?, I just can’t tell who’s telling the truth

One is lying and the other doesn’t want to put anything in writing. You need a different dealer.

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Ive never heard of this with Hyundai financial though.

Where is the shouting match I was promised?

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Damn Youtube clickbait title

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The only thing you need from that dealer in writing is the selling price, not the exact amount you will be pocketing. They do not know the exact payoff amount at this point (it changes daily), but they can get it, of course.

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Get a quote from RODO. They can buy KIA lease without bite and switch game.

Get a quote from everyone on this list. The first step towards figuring out your equity is to determine the value of the car first.

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@Anthony_Lopez at DSR will buy your Kia, give him a chance to give you a price

https://dsrleasing.com/trade-in-1/

Exactly 202020

What are you getting to replace it?

Please tell me you’re not doing all this effort just to overpay on leasing a new Forte.

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No I need to get rid of the car completely. Moving out of state

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Then why are you going to a Kia dealer? Third party buyout not allowed?

I went to 2 dealerships, and matched offers on Carvana and Carmax. General consensus is car is worth 20-21k. Kelly blue book is putting the car at around 22k. I have no problem getting rid of it at 20-21k, I just don’t like how the final amount I would be netting wouldn’t be listed on paper.

Kia finance doesn’t allow Carvana or Vroom to buyout the lease anymore. I could buy the car myself but have to take into account the tax, title, registration fee.