The charging state of the GC4xe does not affect power output as even when the range reads zero the 4xe holds 15% in reserve that is constantly charged for power output between gas and hybrid. That NEVER changes the power is always consistent for towing off roading etc and general driving. I have no idea why people think it loses power when range on battery says zero…That is only fo rpure EV mode.
The only reason you would plug in is to run off of electric exclusively for short trips. The cayenne is an overrated overpriced VW product the X5 or jeep would be the better choice between the two in lower trims. I have owned Porsche and BMW etc and the GC4xe is very good and the interiors and tech is excellent. The only diff on higher trims is quilted leather and air suspension and BS tech packages like night vision,etc. if you want to pay $20k for quilted seats and air suspension so be it but car is no diff. I find coming from BMW and Porsche SUVs that the GC drives very well for what it is unless you move up to $100k plus trims in the porsche. The hybrid drivetrain is very good on 4xe. Don’t get all of the complaints on it.
The tax alone on a purchase is why I’m going straight back to leasing once my warranty expires. It eats up a load of potential equity you may have.
I made my decision to buy a CPO (2.5 years of total warranty left) last year April when all leases were straight and will be selling my Panamera as soon as the warranty is up. While I don’t regret my decision and love my car, I really took for granted how nice a good lease deal was. If I’m fortunate enough to break even (I regularly check my loan balance against value) in a year and a half, I’m still $6500 in the hole for taxes.
If I had the numerous good leases to choose from that we have now, I would’ve never bought.
How is it possible for the 4xe to ALWAYS maintain 15% charge even if the electric range is zero? The battery would eventually run down unless it was constantly being charged by the engine. Charging the battery places an extra load on the engine which takes away power for driving. Charging using the engine is much less efficient than plugging it in to charge. I find the 4xe hybrid system much less useful than those mode by Toyota and Honda.
Well there you go. You found your CPO 2020 RR at the price you were willing to pay the other dealer. What is stopping you from pulling the trigger and buying it?
Here is your explanation
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** **e 4XE will not have an alternator. Instead, it has a DC to DC converter between the high voltage battery and the 12 volt system. That’s where your 12 volt power comes from. Other than that, you’ll have the same capability as any other Cherokee/Wrangler. The converter is rated at 2500 watts so it’s capable.
As far as performance goes, it pretty much works the same. The more electrical power we pull, the more the system will have to work to keep that 12 volt system charged. Keep in mind, the system works to keep the high voltage battery at about 15% when in hybrid mode. Many people think the high voltage battery will run down and the 4XE just becomes a gas vehicle at that point. But it will do what it has to do to keep the big battery around 15% for the sake of power when it’s needed and for the sake of keeping the 12 volt system powered.**
the GC 4xe operates as hybrid once the battery nears its minimum state of charge.
The system will read zero but is not the case. Check jeeps literature and speak with the tech also I have run this thing down and timed zero to 60 it is exactly the same at zero percent vs full electric charge. All the power is there and it is fast for as heavy as it is. I got a little over 5 seconds to 60MPH with zero charge left.
The only difference between the Honda and the toyota system you refer to is the jeeps ability to run off pure electric from a plug in charge. Once that is run out it functions EXACTLY the same as the systems you speak off. Yes the battery is being constantly maintained in its 15% state so the full torque and hp of both motors can be called upon.
Your comments on all things 4xe related lead me to believe you have never even driven one and for sure do not lease or own one.
as the bubble pops, those 4 year old overpriced range rovers are going to be the first that lose significant value.
Don’t get me wrong, I LOVE the way the classic range rovers look, but I am not crazy enough to be the one holding the bag of parts or eat the overinflated prices.
Or really, go take $20k and a buy an older classic range rover and put away $30k for repairs. =) ou might even come out ahead.
So wait, you don’t have a car right now at all? Are you 18 or you live in NYC and don’t need to? Or you got a personal driver?
Your issue is… “I only like the RR Sport and Jeep GC.”
There are tons of GREAt deals out there right now on leasing, you just need to open up your eyes to opportunities…
where I am confused is… you currently don’t have a car, but you only are considering 2 vehicles?
Usually people who need a car, are open to pretty much anything… and those looking for a specific model either really loveit and want to get one as a toy… or have “f u money” and to whom price does not matter.
Yes, I do lease one, and I am not impressed. The 4 cylinder engine gets very coarse at times. I agree it is quicker than the 3.6L, but my gas mileage in the hybrid is not much better than my previous JGC trailhawk. It is about 22mpg vs 19mpg, and this is highway driving starting with a full charge.
One thing I noted today on a long highway drive, the battery is charged while driving in Sport/Hybrid mode. In Auto/Hybrid the battery is simply depleted during a drive, and I need to switch to e-save/charge to regenerate any significant charge in the battery.
Not necessarily true at all. The market has already softened quite a bit, yet the Rover’s are still going strong. Not surprising when orders are taking 1.5+ years and the overall lack of inventory has dealers marking up in stock new/used units to this day. To say that these will be the first to lose value when they are actually among the last to lose significant value is inaccurate.
Market has softened but the economy has not yet crashed. Just wait.
As far as dealers marking up… look at Hyundais, there are dealers asking $5k market adjustment still yet other dealers are offering $4500 off MSRP through brokers.
Just look at wholesale prices of those range rovers… not retail prices.
and will be selling my Panamera as soon as the warranty is up. While I don’t regret my decision and love my car, I really took for granted how nice a good lease deal was. If I’m fortunate enough to break even (I regularly check my loan balance against value) in a year and a half, I’m still $6500 in the hole for taxes.