Real or Fake? Part 2

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I wasn’t aware of this, but I guess it has a mutual effect.

Either way, I am happy to get something for the low price I see online at the moment I need it from a brick-and-mortar. Even if I had to pay a bit extra because they couldn’t match the lowest price, there is still a convenience factor.

Ok, fair enough. I get that.

Personally, I think the ones trying to get the last drop of blood are just plain stupid. There’s a time factor there, and my time is worth more than saving 50 bucks over the life of the contract.

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Ok, in that case a brand shouldnt be competing against themselves. They should focus on moving volume. office depot is not competing against another office depot.

This thread is so fun :smile: Wish I didn’t have to start getting ready for work to do it for real. Haha

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Call in sick :smiley:

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It makes sense if you break it down. If a company has to compete without a price matching policy, they need to sell the product for as cheap or cheaper than the competition at all times. If they institute a price matching policy, they can sell it for higher and the bulk of the sales are at the higher price. Instead of narrowing their margin on every sale, they only do it on a few.

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Seriously, what the heck is wrong with people when they say the dealer is 2 dollars off? I mean, there’s cheap and there’s just… that.

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Gotta pay them bills (with all them LH deals):moneybag: :moneybag:

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Not at all, but usually Office Depot stores sell off any demo products they may have after something has been discontinued or something along those lines.

In terms of price matching, all Office Depots have the same pricing. But when Staples is lower and I am already at Office Depot, I would like to get the price adjusted.

And yet we see it every day

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My opinion is that Car brands should have a fixed pricing like Tesla has. It makes sense. Less friction between dealer and customers. Customers are happy because it is a universally fair price based on the market. Dealers are happy because they dont have to be lying, cheating, figuring out new ways to stay afloat and not have to lose money on deals hoping for incentives from the manufacturer, or future service business. Car business needs to evolve.

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I’m not sure the current system of buying a car is equitable, but for those who put in the effort, you get to pay a lot less – and other customers in effect subsidize you.

If I had to pay MSRP, I probably couldn’t justify leasing a new car every two years, and I’d just buy a Model 3 or used 911 and keep it forever.

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People, there are car salesman out there working to make $75 commission for the sale you so desperately negotiated to the last 5 cents. You were a complete asshole to him for 5 hours. Yet he didn’t say anything to you. There was a time when sales people used to take advantage of you. In the last 5- 10 years, car buying information is all over the internet. Most people are not out to get you. They are simply trying to make a living.

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The problem is that it would have to be a law. Across so many manufacturers and dealers it wouldn’t be feasible - someone is going to lower their pricing unless they’re not allowed to.

The only reason I think it works for brands like Tesla is because they have no real competition. And yet we still see those big discounts on in stock Teslas before quarterly sales reports so they can answer to their investors.

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That ship has sailed.

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The only way to do this is to require for everybody in the food chain of the sales portion of cars needs to abide by rules set by the manufacturer. The problem is that Tesla can do whatever they want because they have a product associated with a service that is unparalleled at the moment. The Supercharging network and ability to travel with an EV is why Tesla will still be a better overall vehicle than Taycan in terms of usability. Taycan is faster, has a better interior, and is probably more reliable.
But Tesla has a network of proprietary chaging stations globally.

Also, NX 300 from Lexus and RDX from Acura are not anywhere near that level, so people will continue to compare and get the best price.

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100% agree. Manufacturers need to make that decision. But they wont. Dealers pay manufacturers what they ask them to pay. So they dont care.

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The market need to shift from negotiating to market pricing. Customers will dictate the pricing. If a brand is not doing well, that will be because of the shittier product. Then they will have to reduce pricing across the board to catch up.

Oooookay, that’s going a bit too far. Please don’t act like every salesman gets treated like garbage for every deal. I’ve had many amicable deals with salesmen and many people here can probably say the same.

Yes I know some customers treat you guys like shit, but some of us are nice too.

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Yeah, it would only work for companies like Porsche and Tesla where, at the moment, demand far exceeds supply.

Many “legacy” automakers have overcapacity and build cars to keep factories running (not saying that’s good or bad, just a neutral observation), so they have to vary the discount on their cars periodically to keep days on lot reasonable.

The manufacturers have volume goals and, frankly, obligations – so incentives, trunk money, stair step bonuses, loser deals, and price discrimination it is.

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