Porsche Macan and Mercedes EQE Deal Check - how to negotiate now?

It’s the same audience. It’s the same knowledge you need to learn. It’s the same strategy you’re going to use.

If by deal, you mean just getting you an allocation, sure. No one is paying under sticker for a 911.

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Especially Euro delivery. Costs the dealer $3k and a PITA to set up.

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You have negotiated 13% off the MSRP for the EQE. Then the dealer has added $7500 in incentives after that. MB is giving the EQE the $7500 EV tax credit for leases. There is potentially another $4000 pocket after that. That latter bit is tied to EV conquest and welcome to EV. Make sure of the incentives for your region that you qualify for in May. You might have some $ left out here.

You have also told them that you would be putting $999 down. Your total adjusted cap cost is thus $69,148.57. At $999 for 24 months, if that is after tax, then you would be paying $23,976 out of pocket to use this car for 2 years. This is your first question. Is this okay with you (not being rhetorical here)?

Secondly, the standard MF (Top Tier) for the month of May for the EQE SUV (according to Edmunds) is 0.00275 (6.6%). Tough time to lease in general. You look like you are in the 7’s on your calculator. I am not sure of the max MSDs for MB. But 10 MSDs would save you about $2000 over the course of the lease. How many can you do?

The dealer is charging you fees of about $3,700. You could try negotiating some of that off. It has essentially eaten half of the Federal EV tax credit. Goodluck with that negotiation. LOL.

Honestly, the lease incentives have made an $85K car to be $65-70K. But with the MF where it is, the lease numbers do not look as wonderful as the ones from the EQS April madness.

TLDR: I think you might be missing some incentives and that your money factor is higher than the standard MF.

More of an allocation at sticker provided it doesnt take away from dealer allotments… given some of the market adjustments out there from many dealers. Probably working out to a decent investment if 911’s are basically not depreciating? Should be able to sell in a year at MSRP?

This. Dealers are reluctant… at least those that really dont specialize in it. But if it doesnt come out of allocation… icing for the dealer? As mentioned earlier… for the buyer… perhaps a chance to own the car for free if market residuals hold over next year or 2. In addition to the thrill of driving it in Europe. I miss the old BMW Euro deliveries… they were slam dunks with the automatic discounts, free month of payment while at sea… and other goodies tacked on to the experience.

How do you find out what the manufacturer incentives are? For example, Mercedes, and if I wanted to create an offer for this vehicle. I do have the premium subscriber calculator features if that makes a difference.

Thank you very much for this! Exactly what I was looking for :slight_smile: . Can you please tell me what is the “welcome to EV” discount? I am already eligible for fleet and ev conquest. Thanks

Incentives as I have read them in my area.

$7500 EV tax credit (as long as you lease the EQE). $2500 welcome to EV credit. $1500 EV conquest (you have a PHEV or EV from another brand and MB is trying to capture you).

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It’s just lease cash AKA another incentive. AFAIK: It doesn’t stack with fleet.

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OP, your best bet here, other than the explanation by @IAC_Scott, would be to simply ask the dealer, “Hey, can you please provide me with a breakdown of these taxes and fees for me to understand,” or something to that effect. I believe they are required to itemize all costs for you, and if they don’t, its probably in your best bet to find a dealer who will.

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Thanks everyone for your inputs and help. I am talking to the MB dealer for a better breakdown. At this stage, I think it makes sense for me to wait for June to roll through. Maybe the incentives improve? (wishful thinking?)

What I tell everyone who asks that question:

If you are happy with the deal as is, and are willing to take it, do not wait for next month hoping things get better.

If you are not happy with the deal, and don’t think you’d take it as is, you might as well roll the dice.

Don’t give up a good deal you’re happy with in hopes of a slightly better deal due to a program change. You might find things go the opposite way.

(Perfect example is everyone who was on the edge for an X5 order in April, who waited, only to see the money factor go up in May)

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What is current max rebate you can get on a Macan S anywhere in the country? I think max I have seen is 8% and @IAC_Scott here has some pretty neat deals.

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He is shopping a Macan Base, I can go 8% off on those. I have some limited time Macan S for 7% right now, but generally not that much on an S.

I’m sure here and there someone can find a bigger discount than 8, but I prefer consistency and having a good dealer experience for my customers.

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@IAC_Scott - Does your discount apply to Colorado residents as well? I was thinking about a custom build Macan (or Macan T), getting a bit off MSRP would certainly make the pill less hard to swallow.

I’ll send the car anywhere! We shipped one to FL just a few weeks ago for another member.

Feel free to reach out, happy to help.

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Doing 9% off on a build like that.

Are you currently accepting new clients? :face_with_hand_over_mouth:

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beg pardon?