Porsche Deal Question

I’m negotiating a lease on a 2025 Taycan 4S and there some numbers been included in the calculation that were not on my previous Volvo leases.

Problem is, when I use a lease calculator I get a lower payment amount. When I asked why, this is what was said:

Your sales price including rebate is $140,065. If we take the taxes from your rebate and down payment of $743.75, add to it the acquisition fee of $1095, Cap Red of $1892.16, tax$ of $701.98, and the $409.25 you’ll input a sales price of $144,907.14

And when I asked for some more clarification on why this screenshot does not match what I get on lease calculators, I got this:

The Cap Red is the amount remaining from your $5,000 down that is applied to the principal of your lease to decrease the payment. The $409.25 is the combination of your state titling fees and our doc, convenience fee, and tire tax.

So where I’m confused is…

  1. How does putting a $5000 deposit down results in a subsequent $1892 increase to the lease amount?
  2. Why are taxes being calculated on the rebate and downpayment?
  3. He references a tax amount of both $701.98 and $743.75 and I’m following why there are two.

Is all of this on the up-and-up or is something fishy going on here?

Show us your calculator.

Here’s roughly where I started off at. What I’m not sure of is whether or not the 7,500 EV rebate should be a reduction in the price or if it should be included in the downpayment.

Here is the calculator link:

Put the $7500 under taxed incentives.

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Obviously cars get updated every year. But I’m struggling to see what updates can be worth 2x payment over some of the 2023 and 2024 deals we have seen recently

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Okay this gets it pretty close.

For me it comes down to the range. I live in a place where the difference in range between a 2024 and a 2025 makes a big difference for road trips.

If your near the tristate area NYC, theres a few NEW 23s GTS asking almost same msrp without discounts

Please do not pay MSRP for this thing, we’re not in 2021.

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As in a 2024 couldn’t complete the trip on a single charge and there are no chargers in between your home and the destination?

I mean this is the nicest way possible, as a 2x taycan leasee. Do not do this, you will be underwater to high heaven after like 6 months if the market goes the way it probably will.

Additionally, this is flat MSRP on a brand new 2025 taycan, do you want to overpay that much when Porsche isn’t going to be subventing like they did on 23s for quite some time?

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The Taycan has a money factor roughly 10x that of its sibling the Audi E-Tron GT (0.00370 vs 0.00035), if you’re hell-bent on an EV you might want to look outside of Porsche (Lucid?). FWIW I also looked at Panameras owing to the range concern (and it being ~30% less than the Taycan), but I read on Edmunds someone getting quotes at 0.0045…

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Are you looking at EPA advertised range?
The Taycan can go much further than that look for range test done by reviewers

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FWIW, I got like 240 miles highway in winter - it’ll do more, but I wouldn’t take it on a road trip unless I had no other options - the EQS and Lucid are undisputed range & mile-munching kings.

I’ve been an Audi owner for most of the last 15 years, but I don’t really love the plasticy look to the GT. I still test drove one though and the MF that I wasn’t all that different than what Porsche was handing out.

What I really want is an EV version of the RS6, but the images released so far of their EV wagon removed all the personality for the RS6. Plus, I need a car by middle of August and it won’t be out by then.

If you’re going to do this no matter what, send me a message, I have a Porsche dealer in MO that might be willing to at least give you some money off.

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You’re really going to pay 2700/mo for a Taycan? Man EVs make people do wild stuff. You can finance a panamera for way lower TCO. Or a 911 for sure. You could drive a real RS6 that isn’t a go kart for lower TCO

Thats what happens when you play with electric, you’ll never gonna be the same :smiley:

Imagine paying 100k to rent a Taycan 4s for 3 years. Appalling

I am no Tesla fan but would just buy a plaid with track pack which is substantially quicker , has better range and probably drives similarly to better , for similar to less money and worth something in 3 years