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Hi Ben:

I just sent over an inquiry via e-mail.

Thanks!

Hi Ben, sent you an email yesterday.

Hey Ben - I sent you an email. Let me know if you received.

This thread might as well just become an LT1 one.

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Just saw this car on Bimmerpost. What an amazing build. Love love love the color scheme

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Hey I was looking at the bmw 750 and would like to lease it ASAP please Call me at (347) 833-2411

Do you have any deals for X 7?

Hello- looking for a x4, please pm

Hi. Looking for a SQ5. Just texted you. Please get back to me!

The acq fee is standard for all Audis - it’s normal. If you’re shopping for an Audi lease, you should already be factoring it into your drive offs. Yes, you can always roll any in. You can do a pure sign and drive (0 DAS) on any lease if you want, it’ll just raise your monthly as you’re capitalizing those costs. In CA, I find drive offs typically come to $2000-2500 if you assume you’re paying $895 acquisition, $1100ish in DMV/title/tax on collected items, yada yada, and first month’s payment. The particulars will depend on the car/price/market/tax/etc. but you can generally assume a $1500-3000 cash outlay if you do driveoffs only and no “down payment,” and if you wanna lower that by $900 then just add $900 to your adjusted cap cost :slight_smile:
Standard stuff for anyone new to leasing.

Are there any manufacturer’s captives that don’t have an acquisition fee?

This topic is flooding my thread, can we please move these? @moderators

What cars have you leased before that didn’t have an acquisition fee?

Apologies Donny and everyone. I have removed my postings on this topic. No disrespect or trouble was intended everyone! My apologies to all.

Apologies Enalyons. I did not realize my topic Stir much controversy. I tried to post an apology to everyone. And if there’s anyway I can make this up please let me know. However I wanted to answer your question as it’s fair.

I have leased Toyota’s. I’ve always had a disposition fee. But I have no recollection an acquisition fee in my past agreement. When I leased my last Toyota Tacoma and I was negotiating with the dealer I specifically remember talking about these fees. The one they would not budge on what is the disposition fee. I went to look for my past lease agreement to take a photo and post but I couldn’t find it. So that’s my bad. The only person I can fine to validate it was my father who was there with me when I negotiated the deal. Unfortunately I cannot position him as a credible witness because we are related :-).

I went to toyota.com and their website said they ‘may be’ included. But it does not say they are always or must be included. Here’s the link in case that helps.

https://www.toyotafinancial.com/us/en/financing_options/leasing_a_toyota.html

I did some research online and I did discover that many / most dealers try to include acquisition fees. But it was also noted that they can sometimes be negotiated out or rolled into the monthly payments. In my case it must’ve simply been lucky I was able to negotiate it out and I did not aware that it was so rare to do so.

Again my sincere apologies to all for stirring up so much controversy on the topic. I didn’t understand it it would be so controversial. My apologies to everyone in the hacker community.

No apology necessary. I was asking because I was curious as to what brands don’t have them. Aside from taking a MF bump to waive the acq fee I have never leased without one. Dispo’s are a thing I tend to not pay as I either sell before lease end or re-lease with the same brand. I have not ever bothered trying to get the disposition fee waived at contract signing.

Thanks for posting about your experience. To be clear, acquisition fees as a normal part of most auto leases - but it doesn’t come from a dealership. It’s not padded profit. It’s from that manufacturer’s finance company, so in the case of Audi, you deal w/ the dealership and there will always be an $895 acquisition fee from Audi FS. Whether you choose to pay it at signing or ask that it be capitalized into the lease will usually be a) proposed by your dealer subject to your requesting it be different; b) come down to how much cash you tell them you want to pay at signing - eg. if I say I want $1500 DAS, they’ll roll it in whereas if I say $2500, they’ll have me pay it at drive off; c) your explicit request. They can’t make you do it one way or the other.

But they can’t just not charge it. Audi FS is collecting it one way or the other.

Now, if you’ve had dealers let you negotiate out of it in the past, that’s all well and good
 but just understand that that was part of your negotiating the price of the CAR. So if you come to a $30,000 negotiated price on a $34k MSRP Toyota because $30,000 is the lowest they can go
 and they tell you $2k is due at signing, including their $500 acquisition fee, and you complain about it and tell them you’ll only buy the car if they waive the fee
 and they agree to do it
 just understand they didn’t really waive the acquisition fee. They told you that $30k was the lowest they’d sell the car for, but then because you pushed on the fee issue, they decided to ultimately sell you the car for $29,500. (Because $30k wasn’t really the lowest they could go, it’s just what they told you the lowest they could go would be.)

It’s great you’ve had it “waived” but I just want to make sure that you don’t think this is something that dealers can just wipe away because you don’t like it
 they can, however, let you talk them into a better price for the car. (And that would’ve always been true, acquisition fee or no acquisition fee.)

I tried to convince my wife this morning she needs to switch from a BMW i3 to a Hellcat Widebody! Despite my best attempts at persuasion, I was rather unsuccessful.

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Just tell her you want divorce and spare her life.

Truthfully, as soon as I said “Dodge”
I didn’t even get to the model before I heard her say nođŸ€Ș

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