Need help improving this BMW 330e deal

Its an 18, still needs more work (20 characters)

It’s two different cars, with both quotes listed - one 2017 and one 2018.

My Bad, didn’t see that.

Yes this! Since they know you have the rebate, they are not working hard to give you a discount on a model that has frankly not been selling well. The 330e is a disappointment.

Hey guys…thanks so much for the GREAT advice! So I just reached out to the “2017” dealership and told them that $500 off the price doesn’t work for me. I told them there are other dealers out there willing to give $5k-$6k off MSRP AND incentives on top of that. They told me “that sounds fishy” and “those dealships might not be telling you the whole truth.” They then offered $2000 off plus incentives. For them to do anymore than that, they said I need to get something in writing from another dealership.

Seems like they are definitely playing hardball. Suggestions??

Would something in writing from vhooloo’s crystal balls BMW dealership in Gold Member, neverlandia suffice? If so, I can produce one :slight_smile:

Show the dealer this post

Ag37204, sounds like you’re getting a MUCH better deal than what my dealer is willing to give. Do mind if I ask…how much did they discount off MSRP before incentives? Do you mind if I use your offer as leverage to get my dealer back to the table? :blush:

If Gold Member, Neverlandia BMW has a good deal, I’ll drive there myself! Haha…

So this being my first time really pushing a hard lease negotiation, do dealerships historically recognize forum posts as “counter-offers?” The sales associate I’m dealing with seems to be on the full defensive. He actually used the quote “You’re one tough cookie…You know I have to buy diapers, right?”

RTB, I ended up not taking the deal. If you want to message me your email address, I’ll send you the quote that they gave me in writing. Also, @jananth1 pointed me to the dealer, so he deserves the credit.

Thanks for the shoutout, @ag37204! @RTB, PM me before talking with the dealer. I might be able to help. :wink:

Just PM’ed you my email. THANKS AGAIN!!!

Just PM’ed you…THANKS FOR THE ASSIST!!

Update…so either BMW dealers aren’t as willing to negotiate lately or my negotiation skills are severely lacking! (I’m guessing…option B)

Went back to the “2017” and “2018” dealer with quotes in hand showing examples of $5k-$14k discounts and additional incentives. Neither wanted to budge more than $2500 from MSRP. I expected that from the “2018” guy but was pretty confident I was going to get at least $5k off the “2017.” He said the best he could do was $420/mo with $1k out of pocket for a car with original MSRP $48k. Thats including my $6k BMW lease cash, $2k BMWNA customer cash, and $1000 military.

I found an awesome 2017 loaner at another nearby dealership, but I’m running into roadblocks there also. Original MSRP $56k, internet sales price $48k. The sales associate said at best they can come down another $1k…and I can only use $3k of the BMW lease cash because it’s a CPO.

Any suggestions?

So I think I’ve made some progress with the 2017 Loaner:

Original MSRP: $56,570
Monthly Payment $435
36mo/10k miles
Out of Pocket: $435 (first month)

They’re going to email me the quote sheet tonight so I can see how the math works. While waiting, I tried to reverse engineer the numbers in the calculator. I think they’re giving me about 12% off the original MSRP.

I was really hoping to get my monthly in the mid $300s. What do you guys think. Should I take it?

what’s the selling price? and how many miles on that loaner? yea there still have a lot of space for that 12%… try to push to 15%, that’s if it’s new car. For loaner its all depends on their mileage. mid 300s is not possible anymore after they kill the MSD, I was in the market for 330e too, but now go down to 320i… for 320i, low 300 is very possible with 0 due at sign.

I don’t know the exact selling price yet. The manager just gave me the monthly payment over the phone. He said he’ll email the quote with selling price and all the other number tonight.

The loaner has about 4800 miles on it so it still qualifies for all the corporate incentives except my $1k USAA/military. Mid $300’s might be a stretch, but I’m hoping I can at least go sub-$400.

Anyone know what incentives can be applied to a BMW Loaner?

Dealer is telling me I can only use the BMW $6k lease cash on 2017 330e Loaner I’m considering. Apparently the $1k USAA and the $2k BMWNA emailed incentive doesn’t work.

Has anyone had any luck otherwise?

That’s weird they are should be able to all add up together. 6k is standard rebate for 330e. Is there any other fine print for those other rebates? This is like the 1st time that I heard that those rebates don’t work together. Dealer didn’t give you extra detail on why it won’t work ?

He said the USAA incentive only applies to cars with less than 500 miles and that the other incentive was excessively for new (non-demo) vehicles. He gave me the number to BMW Financial Services to confirm. I tried calling but they’re closed on the weekends. I’m calling first thing Monday AM.

I’m keeping my fingers crossed but if I can’t get at least the $2k, it pushes us outside our max budget.

Is the car already certified pre owned? Or just categorized as used?