💚 Jeep Wrangler 4XE FAQ | Go Green w/Andy!

[AA-NJ]

@mattevan

@mllcb42

They did not vote on the BBB act at all

They did , actually. A rules vote in the House was passed on the same night BIF was ratified by House, which is the first step in considering new House floor business.

I am heavily invested in $EVGO, whose stock price jumped in relation to the news surrounding the bipartisan infrastructure bill. I don’t pretend to be a lawyer or politician, so I’m not here to argue the semantics of our legislative process.

What I do know, is that the market moved in response to this news, and that’s a good enough sign to me that incentive support is waiting in the wings, roughly around when these Jeep Wrangler 4XEs will show up.

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@GOAT

Love the broker war going on

I have nothing but respect for the other brokers; I’m a firm believer that fair competition is healthy; especially when it comes to car sales.

I joined this forum because there were no active Hyundai brokers in my region that had the car I wanted. Since then, other brokers have started offering Hyundai in our region. I welcome the competition, I follow the forum guidelines, and not once have I been critical of my competitors on their own ads. I welcome them with open arms.

My content and customer experience stands on its own. What I offer is: not for every buyer. But for the hundreds of happy Hyundai customers that have worked with me, I will keep improving the quality of what I do, as much as market conditions humanly allow.

[mllcb42]

$EVGO made a jump in relation to the passing of the infrastructure bill, which is no surprise. There’s plenty that one could read into them passing separately, but being that neither of us are politicians, I agree there isn’t much point in debating it.

There’s one and only one relevant point from the discussion; the BBB act did not pass on 11/5.

[AA-NJ]

@Hypnotics

The other brokers offer locked selling price (not just % off msrp), in case of price bumps… do you as well?

With just a $249 broker fee and no other deposit, there is no pot from which to draw “protection” funds. Due to the nature of my working relationship with my “Platinum Partner” dealerships - I have a ton of confidence in the 8.5% dealer discount. But I cannot offer any protection on numbers that are controlled by Chrysler/Jeep/FCA/Stellantis.

I do have locked-in pricing on Hyundais. If you need a predictable car payment before placing an order, I can absolutely help - it just would be on a Hyundai instead of a Jeep.

[JD81]

Your tears could fill my swimming pool. Winners focus on winning, losers focus on winners

[TuncAy]

Omg broker wars

[ElectricEliminator]

@AA-NJ

People love to talk about racing to the bottom, but what happens when the net cost of car ownership turns negative? Are we racing towards 0 or a larger negative number?

I feel attacked

[socalguy]

Do you ship to California? Or is there even an option to sell to a CA resident?

EDIT: One more question - If the answer to above question is yes, is there a deadline for placing an order with you? I need probably this whole weekend to think about this to decide as I was almost set with another PHEV.

[AA-NJ]

So, here’s the deal with auto shipping.

I work with a third party auto shipping broker (or you can bring your own). It is possible for me to ship Hyundais (and also these Jeeps) around the US.

The thing is, it’s not always worthwhile. East coast to west coast shipping can hit the $1000-2000 price point. Shipping cost also wouldn’t be quoted until the Jeep physically lands on the east coast (which could be months from now, and shipping prices could change). Auto shipping is not like buying something on Amazon, so sometimes it can take longer than the customer expects for the car to actually show up.

For the Jeep deal, I’m pretty sure that I have west-coast based competition that can get pretty close on price. By the time you factor in shipping cost and time, there may not be a savings compared to a local option.

Usually the scenarios where shipping makes sense are:

• Hyundai does not sell the car you want at all in your state
• I can provide over $3000+ savings compared to local sellers
• Inventory issues make it hard to find the specific model/color/trim you’re looking for locally

Something tells me that you can find the 4XE deal from a more local seller. If there isn’t a good option to get what you’re looking for in SoCal, then yes, I can assist with shipping one. Just understand that it will be a slower process - if you need the Jeep on any specific timeframe then I would not recommend trying to do a shipping deal.

Tl~dr: Yes, I can ship, but timelines and cost are completely unknown before you commit the broker fee. I only recommend this if you’re extraordinarily flexible on both cost and timeframe.

[mllcb42]

@AA-NJ

if you need the Jeep on any specific timeframe

Shipping or not, ordering a jeep isn’t a good plan if you need it on a specific timeframe

[AA-NJ]

@mllcb42

Shipping or not, ordering a jeep isn’t a good plan if you need it on a specific timeframe

That is 100% correct. This Jeep deal is for those that like a dose of “game of chance” with their car lease deal.

You want a reliable new car with predictable service on a predictable timeframe?
Hyundai, Hyundai, Hyundai.

[aronchi]

<3Andy, just make it a 0 broker fee. It’s headed that way anyway.

[TheBigTuna]

Lovin how the brokers are ripping each other apart here… LoL…where’s the love?

No offense, if you’re on this site and reading the 9k 4XE post and you still need to pay a broker to get you a deal, your LH account should be revoked.

[martoaj]

Being in the NYC area, does the dealer participate in the NYS “Drive Clean” rebate system? NY area dealers that participate are able to take $500 off PHEV sales based on the electric range (and maybe another $500 based on the high MSRP?).

[Zenek]

I do not think @AA-NJ dealer is in NY, Andy?

[Bostoncarconcierge]

Yeh
$175 doc fee

[AA-NJ]

With regard to DRIVE CLEAN NY and CHARGE UP NJ eligibility on the Jeeps: As posters here are aware - you need to lease the car from a dealer in the same state you reside in to take advantage of those state-specific green vehicle incentives.

So, I am following the same approach here that I have taken with Hyundai. As much as inventory/allocation allows: I prioritize connecting NJ-based customers to NJ-based dealers, and NY-based customers to NY-based dealers.

I am not locking-in eligibility for those state-specific programs, as some eligibility components are outside of my control. But, I am making a best-effort to make those programs available to as many customers as possible by finding the right dealer/customer matchups.

With regard to doc fee: $175 doc fee is the state maximum doc fee in NY; NJ dealers typically have higher. In the event that your Jeep is ordered from a dealer with a higher doc fee, my partner dealers will adjust the discount beyond the originally quoted % such that you’re only paying for 8.5%, adjusted for $175 doc fee. What this means for you, is that the deal really will be the same price whether you’re using a NJ or NY dealer.

Partnering with multiple dealerships in the same Make is one way my approach is different from a lot of other brokers! I’m more interested in replicating my partnership with more dealerships in the same brand, than I am in offering a wide array of makes and models through my brokerage (i.e. WE DO ALL BRANDS). I laser-focus on the specific deals that I advertise.

Just as many community members here like to shop multiple dealerships against each other, so do I. To maintain as high of a degree of integrity as possible with my advertised deals, I secure deals at more than one dealership of the same brand. My partner dealerships know that if they have a change-of-heart when it comes to honoring a deal that is Committed to a customer, I have a choice in where I route the current (and future) customer(s).

I’m also pouring a lot of resources into redundancy.

With custom orders, you’d think that a customer might be backed into a corner if there is only one of their build, and the vehicle is somehow damaged while in transit to the dealer. It turns out, that I’m also doing pretty well at finding people with similar taste to (or within) my customer base. In a lot of cases, “twin builds” are being spoken for at competing dealers. As I get more orders in, I’m working to increase the statistical likeliness that your dream Jeep is built at least twice, where each of its twins is routed to a separate partner Jeep dealership.

The degree of demand & surprise that was placed on me during peak EV Hyundai season has taught me valuable lessons when it comes to the logistics surrounding high-volume car lease brokerage. While I am new to Jeeps, I have built out a system to enforce dealership accountability across a high-volume of complex deals w/Hyundai vehicles.

This particular deal involves some faith & uncertainty. For those that want to take that leap of faith, I see it as an opportunity to surprise and delight those customers.

Thanks to those that have ordered to far, I look forward to fulfilling your Jeep orders ASAP!

[martoaj]

Just to understand better here … So you can potentially make multiple orders for redundancy? So I wouldn’t necessarily be put in contact with a dealer directly for the order. You’ll be handling the sourcing and finding out which dealer(s) can make the order happen, and I would be brought in much further down the line when the car’s almost ready?

[AA-NJ]

That is correct. Despite having tons of choices, it turns out that many people have similar taste in their dream Jeep builds; which enables me to build in just about as much redundancy as my statistical model calls for.

I will connect the customer to the dealer: only once their vehicle is either on-the-lot, or just-about-to-be on-the-lot. Prior to connecting the customer to the dealer, I will present the final lease and purchase prices through my tried-and-true DocuSign process.

My process will get customer sign-off on the final price, then dealer sign-off on the final price/piece of inventory. Finally, I hand-review and sign-off on the deal, then issue the 3-way signed DocuSign to both parties, at which point the customer is connected to the dealer.

I am your POC for tracking updates (via text message), and will message customers when their Jeep ETAs become available.

[taljul]

Would the price be locked in at time of order or time of delivery? There can potentially be price increase between order and delivery.