More excuses for bigger discounts on Land Rovers! For the price I think they are highly overrated, this only confirms it.
Iâm in a Range loaner right now, full size all the options and I love itâŚ
Quality not greatâŚagreed.
Visibility/comfort/seating position is unparalleled.
Does anyone else find it highly suspicious that the Top 3 are Genesis, Kia and Hyundai?
Iâve heard some internet rumors of âgiftsâ for filling these surveys out âcorrectlyââŚ
Very difficult to put any stock or trust into these types of surveys.
Agreed. Checked out the 2020 Evoque for my wife. Very cool, like a mini velar. But the only dealership is pretty far for me, and I know the car would need to be in for service. Leaning towards a BMW X3 instead. Not to mention the lease would probably be horrible on the new Evoque.
Is it surprising that those two are are the bottom though? The Koreans have come a long way and have continued to improve their products, remember how terrible the first kiaâs were? Arenât jag and LR on their 3rd set of owners in the last 20 years, Iâm surprised the cars are as nice as they are.
Hah. Maybe FCA can buy them and turn the ship around. They just need a dose of WCMâŚ
None of the bottom few surprise me. But youâre telling me that Hyundai has better initial quality than Lexus? I just canât buy it.
Ignoring the relatively useless âinitial qualityâ nonsense for a moment, I still donât understand how Ford and Lincoln rates above Toyota and Lexus!?
These surveys are completely useless. âProblemsâ could be the cup holder is in the wrong position or someone does not understand how to use the lights. So there could be nothing wrong with reliability, performance, or quality that leads to a bad score.
Yeah I agree, thereâs some shenanigans going on towards the top, but the bottom 1/3 sounds accurate
And also something tells me that the more expensive the car, the pickier their owners.
Oh I just read the bit about how they calculate some of the score âŚâdifficult to use,â which is where the carâs technology actually works properly, but is designed in a way thatâs hard or confusing for the owner to operate or use"
Sooo, that makes a lot more sense. Hyundai/Genesis have a good, super easy infotainment system, Fordâs Sync is actually pretty good too. Lexus/Toyota is bewilderingly stupid so that probably explains a bit of it. Ownerâs canât figure out how to get Sirius XM to work whilst also changing the temperature.
Totally useless metric though. I just wanna know if the car is going to be in the shop for 2 of the 3 years Iâm leasing for, not if I can play Ariana Grande whilst putting on the heated seats.
I call bullshit not because the Korean brands are rated that high (they have been improving exponentially, but probably not worthy of 1st place yet) but that Nissan is rated the top out of all the Japanese brands.
Enterprise and Budget fill out the JD Power surveys with all 10âs!
Kia sent me free noise cancelling headphones when I leased my stinger gt! It was super cool of them! Haha
So that you didnât hear the paint peeling off the car?
You can hear paint peeling? Hahaha
According to most cartoons yes
I can hear it drying
I ainât even mad. I got to drive the GT essentially free for 16k miles after they refunded me every dime I spent on it.
Chevy has fewer problems than Toyota. Dodge has the same amount of problems as Toyota. Lol. Give it a few years and see how many problems creep up on the Dodge and Chevy vehicles. Could be leasable vehicles, though. Maybe.