Numbers could have changed for S4 P+ since last month, but last month it was a 56% residual for a 36 month lease term. This lease sheet says 48%. Even the Prestige trim is about 52% for a 39 lease term and P+ usually fairs better on the RV than Prestige.
The RV needs to be correct; did it really drop 8 points since last month? The MF stayed the same…
That’s a low MF and they’re only giving you an 8% dealer discount. They also tacked on 300 dollars for etching and what’s the “SUPP.” line? All in all, these numbers seem very bad.
If the RV is really that low, you should tell the dealer they should give more dealer discount to make up for the significant drop in RV… though I still don’t believe it should be 48 percent. I’m also not an insider at Audi Financial.
Adding Audicare will increase the RV by 1 point, but add maybe 11 to 15 dollars a month. If you’re looking at 39 month lease, you may benefit from Audicare.
I thought 48% was pretty low as well. Thank you for bringing up the point involving SUPP and etching, I will definitely bring that up to her and see what she says.
8% is terribly low for an S4. You need a much bigger discount on the S4. Shoot for close to 12%. Even if they settle for halfway in between… 10% is a lot better than 8%.
Also, the MF is low and that’s a GOOD thing. The lower the MF, the lower the interest rate. Right now it’s a 1.44% APR equivalent which is really low. So don’t question that. It’s fine.
Thank you! I’ll bring up those points to her and keep you guys posted. Thank god I checked out this site before accepting any sort of deal with this lady.
From the salesperson:
"My boss did the etch. You don’t have to do that. The residuals are from AUDI not us. And the supplemental title tax is a New Jersey tax for anything that’s over $45,000 gets a supplemental title tax of .004%. you do live in New Jersey correct? But we are too far apart on the selling price.
The only other offer they are doing is if you I think I have a Honda Ford or possibly a Toyota I’d have to check in your household where they’ll give you another $500 for conquest but I don’t have the details on which cars because I’m in the car but that won’t make much of a difference."
So I suppose she’s saying the 48% residual is direct from Audi? Hard to believe.
It would make sense if it came from Audi since it would need to be approved by Audi Financial… I still can’t believe Audi considers the S4 residual that low… have you considered shopping the quote around to other dealer ships?
I got another quote from another dealer:
MSRP: $60,540
Sales Price: $53,250
Monetary: 52 basis points
Residual: $29,059 (about 48%)
Total out of Pocket : $4,635
15k miles per year / 39m
Monthly: $663
MSRP
Sale Price
Money Factor
Residual
Term
Mileage
That aside, let’s just look at MSRP and nothing else. You’re at an effective $800 per month (don’t know the mileage, it’d change my opinion, but not much) for a $61k car. That’ somewhere between lousy and horrible. Not attractive.
Get a better understanding on the numbers I’ve listed, check Edmunds, search the forum for other S4s. Audis seem to have low RV, which isn’t helping you, and don’t typically lease all that well.
If you’re looking for a deal, Audi doesn’t look like the place to be.
Here’s a reference point for you from last month. I’m sure the deals have changed but this ought to be worth something to you. But, again, if you’re looking for a deal, Audi doesn’t look like the place to be. Search some of the recent BMW leases from both marketplace and ask the hackrs sections.
I got the lease as mentioned above for $523 per month with seven MSD’s car was originally six $59,800 they took off close to 13 by the time incentives were done… I can look into the paperwork for more details if you’re interested 2000 down as well
At 15k miles and 39 months you will absolutely need audicare for the 45k and potential 55k mile service just in case you happen to go over mileage.
This generation of car is actually not bad to own used. Maintenance is much lower than the previous, out going S4. A huge drop in maintenance costs was the transition from the s Tronic transmission to ZF automatic.
You have an Audi rep here saying you can get a better deal: @AudiGuan check to see what he can do and maybe it’s cheaper overall to ship it to you from Santa Monica!
This is right. You aren’t finding a 3/45 Audi S4 for a hacker worthy deal. I would also say buy CPO but a quick search shows fairly limited S4 availability on the east coast.
There is a reason you see way more BMW and Infiniti deals on here versus Audi. If you really want the car and can afford it, get it (after getting a few additional % off MSRP) It’s not a 1% deal but if it makes you happy. If you want a deal on a comparable car, maybe a 340i? From Edmunds it looks like the 2018s 3 series still has lease support although that could be regional/wrong