If you had to get a car today…

There are no in-stock units of EV6 at MSRP. If you put down a deposit and order one, there are multiple CO dealers selling at MSRP but wait times are long (up to 6 months was the last I heard)…

Order a 4xe from @Clutch

If you don’t want to wait, get a Toyota at MSRP. They hold their value so well you can’t go wrong. I’ve flipped 3 of them in the last year. But even if you’re keeping the vehicle you’ll stay ahead in the long term. I recommend a 4Runner. Ancient at this point but they hold their value like you wouldn’t believe.

If you’re still in WA, pm me for Toyota dealer that sells at MSRP

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I’m moving to CA, but agree with the sentiment (Toyota at MSRP).

I should note that the 40kw Leaf isn’t enough range for me (moving to a mountain). The Plus would be just fine, but the lease deals aren’t great on those.

Where can i find a Toyota at MSRP? Serious question, I’m overwhelmed trying to figure this out

This thread would be a start

Depending on your location there could be a broker you can work with as well

Hope I’m not reviving too dead a thread. My beautiful wagon was parked on the street and was obliterated by a stolen car piloted by a druggie.

Any suggestions on what to get next, given the used market seems to be softening every day, but new car supply still sucks?

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Not the e450?!

V90?

Audi wagonz are few and full of adm. i imagine those buick wagon$ will be the first on sale as used cars correct. A 2019 VW Sportwagen will include dieselgate apology extended warranty 7/72.

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I’m afraid so. I’m so sad. Damage is worse as you get closer. Axle is bent and rear structure is caved.


Good call on all the above. Will start some searches on V90 first. Not 100% tied to wagons but man they are so sweet.

Thank you.

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This link made me shed a tear.

19% off?? :sob::sob::sob:

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The glory days when there was a plethora of cars on the market and no one wanted a wagon. I was gonna buy that baby out when lease was up next month.

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As much as I enjoy my 2018 Sportwagen, I have difficulty imagining that someone is going to move from an E450 to a Sportwagen w/o some… sadness.

V60CC? But be forewarned that they are apparently not particularly space efficient.

Ugh, I’m so sorry about your wagon. That’s gotta hurt on multiple levels.

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I lobbied hard for a Mercedes wagon for the mrs. She said she didn’t want a “mom” car. And the kids agreed.

A slow, single tear, fell down my cheek.

Quality however was not impressive for the last one. I had a ‘17 E300 ($420/mo lease on a loaner, score!!). It was at the dealer many times for things that a new car should not need to be looked at. I remember one time I was there another customer was going apeshit with the service manager about his almost new suv (can’t recall the exact one) being a pos.

MB is one of those only own under warranty deals for me.

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Don’t disagree. But never had an issue on my car. Only 20k miles though. Had a few Benz over the years and they have always been good to me. Just one anecdote though.

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I think MB can be very hit or miss. We’ve had 11+ over the yrs (all the most recent ones were leased). Some of them were decently reliable (they were all maintained well) and some… were not.

While I think all brands can, of course, have variable reliability, I think MB (and German makes, in general) have much more variability than most (esp over the past 30 yrs). My C250 was really reliable… until it wasn’t, ~7 yrs after purchase.

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can it be fixed?

I had an E39 that acted like a Camry. And I had an A8 that acted like, uhm, a BMW.
Yeah it can absolutely be hit and miss with the German brands. Difference is 99% of Camrys act like Camrys, lol. I had a Sienna for 6 years and 100K miles and not a single thing broke on that. Not so much as a plastic bit fell off. Literally other than maintenance, nothing was needed. I am still amazed to this day how that held up. And this was 6 years of use with small kids in and out of the thing.

And I can’t for the life of me figure out why Toyota (and Honda to a lesser extent) can do this but MB, VWAG and BMW can’t. It’s like dudes, just buy a Camry or two strip it down and figure it out, LOL.

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Will find out next week. If I was a betting person, I’d say it’s totaled. Bent axle, messed up suspension, destroyed exhaust and substructure damage. If it can be fixed, I won’t be buying it out.

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well then there goes that idea. sorry for your loss.

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Just avoid cars built on Monday morning and Friday evening. :grin:

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