Help with a 2023 CPO Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo 4s lease negotiation

I own a Lava Orange 2020 992 that I love and wouldn’t sell for anything. But we’re selling our Tesla X and need something to replace it. I love this one particular CT4s but I could literally see me walking out and leasing a KIA EV9 GT Line and saving all the fun driving for my 992.

Last I checked there were a lot of 24s still on lots. I would think patience is your friend.

Meaning waiting for a good deal on a 2024 or waiting out the dealer on this particular CPO '23 I like (and wife loves)? The '23 has been on their lot four months. They drop it around 4k every two weeks from what I can see.

Can you give any insight into how these Porsche CPO lease programs work? I want to find a reasonable way into this car but it’s all such a mystery box with these CPOs. At least to me.

Others can chime in if the programs on the 24s would be better. Also 39 months in CA is going to cost you 1500 in registration for 3 months (assuming no pull ahead)

It is heavily dependent on the specific vehicle in question; you would need access to the entirety of the programs, but that isn’t going to happen. It seems you have the majority of the moving parts on your car here. Asking how a lease is calculated is a different question.

If I’m not mistaken in CA we can pro-rate our registration if we pay in full and then get out of a car early. I think we can get the pro-rate refunded? I could be wrong.

All a dealer cares about it how does this car price comapred to the rest of the market. If the car is competitively priced, they have little incentive to discount it. Now if you can show them a similar car for less, then maybe they will move. Otherwise, the programs are the programs and a dealer isn’t going to discount a used car thousands because you feel the used car leasing program is bad. Which it isn’t. Ask them for a quote on a new Taycan CT4. I bet the lease is at least $1000/mo more.

PFS gutted 24 programs this year. If you want a new car 25s are the way to go.

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Yeah I don’t have feelings bad or good about the programs. Just that I don’t understand any of it. And to some degree, that’s not my business how they make their money. I don’t begrudge them profit. I think it’s PRICED fine. I came here to see how the lease numbers compare. But also trying to be mindful and not get my head turned by all these programs from a couple months ago that don’t really relate to this.

Unless they changed something recently this is not the case.

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What if I asked you for a gtr3rs for $0 and sub 1000 a month? :joy::joy::joy:

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One can hope (were gonna be hoping for a long time)

We gotta find a bank that offers a 800 month term

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If it’s priced well then buying it is the better option of the two. Why would anyone spend a total of $66,000+ to lease a car selling for $99?

Or pick another car as you alluded

The biggest reason for me to lease is I can write off the entirety of the lease. So the lease $ is basically half-price out of pocket.

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The effective tax rate of your company is 50%? Damn

Either way you can deduct the depreciation and interest of the owned asset too, right?

I am my company. So I deduct business expenses pre-tax. My company zeroes out every year. It’s just my personal income tax.

I know I deduct depreciation when I do it with owned asset. I can’t remember re the rest. I still think it works out cheaper re lease.

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I think you’re right. I think there’s a few exceptions but this probably isn’t one.

Cheapest way is to buy and write off using section 179. The problem with Luxury Car write offs is that if you get audited, the agent is going to ask if your car is necessary or customary in your line of work. If you’re a doctor and writing off a Porsche Taycan, uncomfortable questions will be asked. But if you’re a contractor and writing off a TRX, it’s a lot easier lol

What if you’re a degenerate personal shopper? Can you write off a CPO Taycan for “auto industry emerging trends research vehicle”?

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