Trying to lease a used 2023 CT4s with 1400 miles from an out of state dealer and not sure how to counter this not so great offer: 163k msrp, listed 99,999k. 39 mos., 7500miles, 43% residual, 3500 DAS (includes first month and CA registration). Approximately $1650 monthly incl. tax, .0039MF.
It’s been on their lot for four months.
thanks all
so the programs (mf/rv etc) for porsche CPO programs is the greatest mystery of the 21st century (just second to why the seahawks didn’t run it at the goal line with an elite RB of the time).
-the programs are not public knowledge so you have no idea how bad they are rigging the MF (RV, isn’t touchable I believe-preset value). Also how bad/good a program is depends on the model/year-again what is best? no clue.
CPO leases just are what they are, either they make sense, or they don’t. Is that 1650 with minimal out of pocket? Sounds pretty good for a 39 month term especially.
its about 3500 DAS, but most of that is first month/CA registration. There’s a 550 “dealer doc fee” bit of chicanery in there but I hadn’t gotten to that yet. And then 1550 for closed shipping to get car here. it is all just a black box theater there and it’s also out of town so I can’t even sit in the car.
Don’t know what else $-wise might show up when we get down to it but that’s all the basics. I’m sure they’re eager to get rid of it. it’s way over-optioned for its market and been on lot for four months. but how eager I do not know.
This right here is basically why I’m posting it here. I don’t want to end up like Pete Carroll and have people on the internet make fun of me for years. I don’t think this their buy rate? But I honestly don’t know.
have you thought about leasing 8 ioniq5s instead?
I’ve driven both the Ioniq 5 and the Ioniq 5 N in the last week. They’re great cars. They’ve been on the list. But something isn’t clicking with me on it. But I couldn’t tell you what it is. I think everybody should by the 5 N.
and I think anything beyond six of them is overkill.
Can we just agree on seven - one for each day of the week?
Or … how many colors can you get it in. Just get one of each.
Rainbow colors, of course!
Only brokers/dealers/mystic folks have access to that info can provide you with that number 
If I Knew, I would share
Cpo Porsches are being posted in California marketplace almost daily. Check them out as a reference .
Are the 12 month ~$1,000 deals dead?
Sort of, just from a math standpoint.
I will say the 12 month $1000 lease throws me off when trying to do comps for this. it’s such a particular deal. And one that would leave me in constant churning/researching/etc. Which may be some people’s bliss but I’m kind of a set it and forget it person in all life aspects.
What are other 2023 CT4’s listed for on cars.com and Autotrader?
Right in that ballpark. I’d say given how loaded it is, it’s priced well. Which is the dealer’s argument. And I said to them: how does a list of five cars that haven’t sold help me know what this should be sold for? That’s why they like the word “pre-negotiated.” Which is…silly. But no one has a gun to their head either way.
PFS removed the special residual bump for Taycans, lowered the base residuals, and raised the money factor. So please stop asking me for sub-$1000/mo Taycan payments with no money down (not you directly, just this forum in general).
Yeah I definitely didn’t think I was getting this car sub $1k and no money down. I’m just trying to figure out a solid counter for $1650 39/7500mi with $3500 down. I don’t need to bag a unicorn, just don’t want to feel like a donkey.