After re-reading this, looks like they want a 1k cap cost reduction… wasnt mentioned but the #s seem to imply it.
The 16s don’t seem to reflect the new lease deals but the 17s calculator works
So having spoken to a so cal dealer he said that the MF on a 16 is 0.00007 and the RV 63% for 10k a year.
The only issue is they wont lease at the discount level they are showing n their site. Really odd, just say it is company policy. You could buy it cash or finance. @max_g and his hidden rebates!!! (They said it was not to do with rebates though, just policy, but he is going to talk to the GM)
I think “policy” is code for “we want to make more money and FCA is making that hard for us”. If they won’t lease at that rate, isn’t that some kind of false advertising, that same as if they showed “lease X car for $199/month” and then they didn’t have any to actually lease at that price?
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From what I understand it is just about finding the right dealer. I see someone on another forum just got a hellcat for 530 Inc tax a month with only 530 drive off. So it can be done!
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Dealers are getting more and more unethical. Went into a dealer to get a Jeep yesterday and we agreed on a price. I then told him I was leasing through an outside bank because Chrysler MF was .00213 and the credit union is doing .00110 with same residual. Anyways the manager comes out and is a major prick to me and said he had to mark up the rate to make money… SO we agreed on a price and now you don’t honor the rate because I’m not letting you mark up the rate…? What if I paid cash?? Would they not honor the deal? Happened to me at two places yesterday
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Welcome to the brand!
I wonder if the rates will change feb 1? I’ll be down in socal next week.
I do some deals on the Hellcat forums. I also see some people who payed WAY too much 
I think part of the problem is that quite a few of the dealers don’t use Chrysler financial services so they don’t even have access to the rates.
The one dealer emailed me back saying they couldn’t lease at a solid price under MSRP because they would take a pretty big loss but they can sell / finance at a lower price. Not sure if he was BSing or if Chrysler seriously needs to work on communication with dealers. Some dealers entirely unaware of updated numbers as a whole while others can only sell at a good price if purchased / finance. Been in contact with 25+ dealers now and haven’t found one solid one yet that seems like they have their heads screwed on.
I think it comes down to the spread they make on financing. Financing a 60k car even 1 percent spread gives them at least 2k to 3k in total over 5 years. For lease they can mark up only a little.
I get it but then Chrysler Financial shouldn’t have given such a ridiculously low MF. If they would have increased it a little then dealers wouldn’t have to differentiate the sales price for financing & the sales price for leasing. Feel like they should have gotten some input from the actual dealerships.
Does not matter the mf, usually it is only 20bps or so allowed mark up on a lease based on my experience. Loan, well the sky is the limit i guess unless they have to deal with usury state laws. When i got my jeep, or tried to get a chrysler 300, it was the same thing. They could discount more but once you say lease they refused to talk sales price, ans i hit almost every dealer in NYC and long island.
Just got to the bottom of it. All the cars have a huge amount of unadvertised addons. Paint protection, tracker etc etc. The margin in these is so high that they advertise a bigger discount. The reality is that on a 16 they are getting about $1500 kick back below invoice so in reality they can only go 8% off MSRP before they lose money on the deal.
Best I have found with a $1000 lease conquest rebate on a 16 is $527 +tax which is $573 inc tax with a $1800 drive off. (Standard fees plus acquisition and first month) 36/10.
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What? MF is essentially the interest rate. If Chrysler Financial would have given a more appropriate MF then the dealers would not have to differentiate the prices between leasing & financing. It could be a clean cut price no matter how the vehicle is purchased/leased thus leading to a much smoother transaction. Now dealers will have to differentiate the sale price for buying vs leasing; creating unneeded confusion & extra hassle for them.
You understand the MF goes to Chrysler Capital right and not the dealer? Chrysler could set the highest MF and it would do nothing for the dealer as Chrysler allows you to mark it only 20bps or so, which is the dealer spread.
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Wondering if you can PM the dealer info in California that you used. Thanks.
Just curious… has anybody called their insurance agent just to get a quote on what a Hellcat is going to do to their monthly insurance premiums?
I just leased a 2017 Scat Pack and am super happy with the deal I got plus it’s only raising my monthly premiums over a 2014 Buick Verano Turbo by about $30/mo. I’m early 40’s with a clean driving record in the Midwest. When I called my agent, she said it’s a good thing the Charger wasn’t a Hellcat because those are REALLY bad.
I understand you gotta pay to play, but it may be a good idea to go into a Hellcat lease with eyes wide open.
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I do understand the pay to play but unfortunately I’m in a state, florida, where my damn 2015 Toyota Corolla is more to insure then my 2015 Mercedes E350 and we’re talking $50k price difference lol. Can’t be too much more.