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Finally a screenshot where the low battery is actually being charged 
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How much popcorn can that fancy cookware make?
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Missed the point again: he does not know (nor his customers) what his best deal is after making 1-2 calls instead of 50 vs. brokers, who know they advertise their best (kinda, if there is no bird dog involved) deal given to them by their dealers.
And for $1k he should present his customers with 3 deals to choose from (slightly different options, diff region but with included shipping for must have options, etc), showing he actually done some work.
This thread isnât going anywhere.
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Really? It has been looking pretty solid as to direction for a long time now.
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Yes, I get it. But âbestâ is a moving target which changes as volume increase, and I donât care to know how often he settles after making two calls vs 50 and why it would matter (without knowing how his average negotiated discount compares to market data).
When folks leasehack on here, the same thing applies: make offers based on a target deal which is constructed from an aggressive, yet feasible pre incentive discount. They could take a deal after making two calls, or it may take them 50. They use their judgement to know when to jump or not.
Sure I get that we (and the consumer) have no protections / assurances in place to trust that he will really only stop after getting a truly aggressive deal (i.e. âthe bestâ), but again if he fails to do this routinely, the business wonât last.
In any case, consumers go in knowing what to expect, and what they are paying for, so I donât see anything wrong with the business model.
Also: I have no idea how he presents deals to clients and what options he tives, and what happens if they say no, etc. I do, however, find it interesting that clients can listen to recordings of all calls made on their behalf.
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So do customers have to pay the $1k fee first? What if the deal you are negotiating is not better than what they could get from a broker in the Marketplace? Do you offer a refund?
I doubt they are guaranteeing the best deal available.
Well, at least as a consumer I know what to expect. Transparency is King is here. As an example, I have seeing brokers (not charging $1k) advertise up to 15% off MSRP on a new BMW 330i? Can you match or beat that deal? Or better yet, what do your deals look like on this particular car?
As a consumer, what annoys me is that I still donât have any idea what value he provides for his 1k. Donât get me wrong, I donât mind eating crow and all. But this seems to be like âI pay you 1k for your best* effort to save me money and time!â
*best effort is defined as whatever Seller says it is.
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I think thatâs precisely what it is: you pay $1000 for service providerâs time, skills, and effort and in return getting what service provider thinks is a top market deal given whatever criteria youâve placed on them (model, trim, radius, timeframe, etc)⌠Like many service industries, you are placing inherent trust based on their skill set, experience, testimonials, etcâŚ
and thatâs OK if thatâs what the consumer wants to proceed with. I just donât think anyone is getting duped here.
(Though, it sounds like thereâs added context in that folks are at least given some sort of range of what to expect before paying, so if thatâs true, in a way a consumer knows at least what minimum discount they will get. Again, they choose to pay after consult).
And yes, if âbest effortâ means phoning it with little effort and thus doesnât yield good results, over time the service will fail to exist.
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From my perspective, the issue is not the quality of his deals or services. He is mispresenting his services and what brokers do. Unfortunately, i shared a le creuset link instead of his video but if you watch his video the way he explains his services is identical to what brokers do and he misrepresents what brokers do.
will give it a watch after I buy a le creuset
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Invoice is approx 1500 under msrp on rav hybrid xle. 2k back on higher trims. One of the best selling models for Toyota. Why any dealer would âloseâ 2300 is beyond me. 2700-3200 off is my price and thatâs very good. I honestly donât believe 3800 off unless itâs some market that adds a bunch of crap to just discount them.
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Personally have seen and enjoyed Delivrdâs content, but thatâs all it is in my opinion. The expertise are negotiating discounts off MSRP, but an overall deal is so much deeper than that. On a lease, I have not seen mentions of MF & programs. Iâve seen a video of 9% off MSRP on an X5, which is a discount we all do on here pretty easily, with buy rate MF and are able to figure out rebates that customers qualify for. Also, regardless of who I get paid by (dealer or customer), I think my service is significantly more transparent. My client knows exactly the price theyâre going to pay, I can go into depth about how the lease is structured, programs, help them sell their trade, etc. Deliverd to me is a social media gimmick that helps uneducated leasers and car buyers get a decent deal on paper.
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@DailyDriven Thank you for making me feel better about my LC purchases because I bought them out of vanity.
Seems like this topic has run its course. Letâs close this topic and move the cookware discussions to a dedicated thread without slow mode!
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