Grand Wagoneer----Its Biiiiiig

Other than the girth, is there anything else we are supposed to be impressed by?

Based on that remark, I’ll venture a guess that we do not like the same things.

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Wow - come out the closet it’s ok - the world is open minded now -

Mike stop watching the girls on tik took and get back to the cars

Are they seeing this as an opportunity or are they curating this with the banks?

I wouldn’t be surprised if manufactures and their finance arms were intentionally incentivizing programs with banks to induce longer terms to promote more interest and higher MSRPs.

This is exactly what I was thinking, had no idea they were the same body. Won’t these compete with each other too much to make sense?

Are there really huge differences between the two other than the pricing? Seems like they probably could have condensed this into one vehicle with a ton of different model choices, kind of like the GC now

Who me? Lol

That’s Ralph Gilles’ IG feed.

“President and CEO of Chrysler’s SRT brand and Senior Vice President of Design at Chrysler before being promoted to Head of Design for Fiat Chrysler Automobiles in April 2015”

Be a lot nicer if they found a tasteful way to put some of that wood on the OUTSIDE.

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I would bet there is a woodie special edition in the pipeline. Of course Jeep NEVER does special editions so who knows?

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Introducing the Jeep Grand Wagoneer BIG WOODY 82nd Anniversary Edition!

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I think as the standard equipment including new safety & convinence features started becoming standard on most models & prices started creeping up, car companies had to work with their finance arms to figure out a solution & longer terms was one of the easiest way out.

but i think it cant confidently argue that the idea couldn’t have started with raising the prices as well

Tech has widened the gap between luxury cars/well equiped mainstream cars and more basic transportation. As people wanted to have cars with all the tech niceties and, to some extent luxury, the only option was to extend out the loan to keep the car payments affordable to the middle class.

As an aside, I’m not convinced that safety features are a terribly important contributor to price creep. Toyota has managed to put it’s suite or safety features in pretty much every car it makes including it’s cheap ones. These certainly increase the cost of cars but they are not why a Highlander platinum or Telluride SX is 50k dollars.

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Rich house moms will eat this thing up. You’ll see tons of them in the higher end of the middle areas

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Yes indeed. There will be a line of them at the Starbucks drive through after school dropoff while on cell phones telling their BFF’s how uncompassionate and out of touch their husbands are…

Bingo! Nailed it

On the size, I’d hate to drive something this big. I want as small as can be and still fit two kids

Sorry if I’ve missed this in the comments above, but any idea when the Wagoneers are going to be available? Neighbor said he talked to a dealer, and they still don’t know or are saying end of 2021.

I’m personally a fan of these. As a suburb dweller, we’re surrounded by Escalades, Tahoes, Denalis, and a few RRs, so I like that it’s different but still has all the amenities. Not as flashy as the Escalade or RR, so not traveling around trying to prove how much money you make. If you’re asking about the target market, it’s probably us. We go to a cabin almost every weekend in the summer and we have two kids, so the third row will primarily be used as an area to pack coolers, bikes, fishing gear, etc., but it’s also nice to have the third row option when you’re bringing kids to activities. Pretty #Basic, but is what it is.

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Sounds like a great childhood for the kids

Will you stop that? There’s absolutely nothing wrong with any of what was said just because it’s not what you subscribe to.

Who said there’s something wrong with what he said?

I sensed the sarcasm

I sensed it big time

:salt:

You’d probably enjoy a fishing trip at the cabin