This thread is getting locked up soon…
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Maybe the people who actually run this site? They are the ones who make money from the brokers. In the end this site has to fund itself and it only funds itself if people actually buy from the brokers, and then in turn the Brokers keep paying the monthly fee. I am not sure if this site actually makes money, but in the end (from what I see) the brokers pay to keep it up and running
I bet that if I would have just went ahead and made a FAQ and filled in some of the Acronymns myself I would have been applauded.
He @sgroi135 thanks for being a site member. You are not a Leasehackr customer. You are a leasehackr user, this is an informational forum where people help people and for those that wish, there are brokers and dealers on the site that streamline things for some users. You can be customers for them but that is like any customer experience, if you don’t like it use a different one or none at all. You’re going to have to spend some time learning on the site and flipping through hours of read material to get some of your answers, we can all help connect the dots for questions you can’t answer. I promise the information here on the forum will take a career in the car business and more to identify if you did it on your own.
Try creating a mock-deal for yourself and compare it to other similar deals of the same car.
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LOL I know where to get the information and that is actually how I found it. Reading in context must be new to you.
OP should be issued a full refund.
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You are a piece of work. You come to this site for help, you make many assumptions that are 100% wrong. You then insult the people that point out to you that you are wrong while completely ignoring that fact. If you would consider for a moment that your assumptions are wrong rather than doubling down on them there are a lot fo things about this site that you don’t understand that would start to make sense.
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I am not sure where I said that I was a customer of LH. I understand that I am a customer of the broker/dealer. But I still don’t understand where anyone can say that having more information at the fingertips of a person is not better.
Looking at my original comment, there was a suggestion for a FAQ with some terms,
then i got into recommendations and comments for BROKERS to get and keep a customer.
Yet I am getting torn apart for not using google, when the LH forums are meant to help people that are members?
Weird.
This is really a question. What assumptions did I make that are 100% wrong?
Can we shut this down? It’s a lame thread.
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You’re not always going to find the answer from an original source. Need to do research here and elsewhere to get your answers. This is a forum, not a one stop shop for everything that “you” want. It was a nice suggestion and someone posted a link to what you’re referring to in this thread.
That leasehacker is a one stop shop designed to keep people on the site as long as possible and that they profit from their users by doing so. You fundamentally misunderstand the purpose of the site, thus there are many things that make no sense to you. This site is not Facebook or any other add driven site where the main purpose is to get clicks and keep people here as long as possible. It is a free service meant to help everyone. They only just recently started charging a nominal fee to brokers to post. The service is 100% free to users and we aren’t their customers. This is a crowd sourced site where many people help each other.
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Off course it’s better to have more readily available information. Crowd sourcing however isn’t going to provide a streamlined process, the data has to be normalized and presented efficiently or it can be put in posts like these which works out better for a crowd sourced site, it isn’t always going to be the most convenient but it is the most organically updated. All this information streamlined would cost hundreds/thousands of human work hours and lot’s of money for developers as well as licensing auto data from data brokers that would cost thousands. If you take all brokers/dealers and multiply that number by their monthly fee the revenue doesn’t account for that.
Will LH get better over time? Yes as it has for the past 4 years but it won’t be the Netflix for car deals and information.
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Cloak of anonymity?
Anything that I say on here I would say just the same in person. Just saying.
As for the Hackr vs Broker thing: Anyone can do what a broker does as long as you’re willing to undertake a sometimes not so steep learning curve, are good at math (or using a calculator), and are good at social engineering or at least being persuasive.
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@senwia Yes I know what running a huge forum is. I know exactly what crowd sourcing is. But if anyone here thinks that it is right to tell people to leave the LH site to find information is not correct from the point of view from the admins (owner of the site). The point is that people should not want to go elsewhere for anything. New people should be able to find basic information easily. Which in the end all the back and forth here is about knowing what acronyms mean. If I wanted to I could have easily started a new thread in the FAQ with the information. But being new the site I didn’t want to have any mistakes in it.
Making a site like this better is what it is all about. You want more and more people to come here, which will then attract new and more Brokers who pay their monthly fees to keep the site running. Simple things can be done to attract more people. I have some friends who are in the younger generation who would have stopped already with the forum. Yes they are the type of people who want to be spoon fed. If the admins/leasehackrs don’t want to give as much information to users, then the brokers should do it on their own to keep the customers going.
My inital comment was never to start a $hitstorm, but it is funny to see that people will not open their eyes. While I am a new member to LH this is not my first rodeo with forums.
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OK - I think your point has been made. @Michael and @littleviolette (who are the owners) will review this thread and take your feedback into consideration.
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No one should take any offense to anything that was in my comment.
I don’t want to be a hackr or a broker. My point of coming to this site was to find a great deal on the car that I wanted. Otherwise we would not be here right now. I found my deal, I could have just signed off and said good buy for a couple years.
I thought to myself “Hey, this site is pretty cool, but I wish that there was this information, would have made it much better for me BEING A CUSTOMER (to a broker)” Let me post a comment.
So I did and here we are with a lot of negative comments.
Crowdsourcing is about bringing different things into the mix, and again, all this is basically about the explanation of acronyms.
In order to post, can it be forced that new users must read all of the topics in the “Leasing 101” section? Obviously, for OP, this wasn’t enough.
PS, it mentions going to “Leasing 101” before going to FAQ to clear up any questions.
Then your initial post should be edited to a one line statement suggesting that you’d like more transparency into the acronyms used in leases. Instead here it looks like you’re complaning about a forum that doesn’t charge you for information. A quick Google search could’ve helped you with one of your questions.
Do you know, I did look at the Leasing 101.
Can you show me there where it talks about MSDS or what DAS means?
OP has had ample opportunity to make his case. Now there’s no need to beat a dead horse or go around in circles.