Surely an adapter (Like J1772 to Tesla) likely defeats this?
If it worked that way why don’t more people with J1772 use tesla charge stations? The adapter is just that, its just a fancy UK/EU power outlet to US power outlet type adaptor but for EV’s.
Its way more complicated but think of it as the car holds the digital key and the only way to use it is when the car and the charger are connected. Without the key the charger simply won’t push out energy. So you certianly can use an adapter but the charger still needs that specific identifying key.
The one realistic workaround I can see is with cars that have 2 way charging i.e. Ford Lighting. But it would be a huge PITA and take forever, you’d have to charge the car then use that charged car to charge another car. I suppose you could hack the charger snd software but you better be smart enough to work for NSO Group.
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Exactly my point, I had a 4xe when I installed the charger, and now have a M3, both are charging just fine.
If i wants to steal and rent out my driveway to charge all my block, I don’t think technically they could stop me, maybe if they see that the charger is used 24/7 … but again that’s me stealing, so regardless what they will do I will look for a way to steel.
Thank G it’s not my cases
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And you have the FPL installed Blink charger on the $38 monthly plan? How long have you had it?
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Yes, for a year now +/-
I use the adapter, work just fine
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I’ve been comparing the “free charging” programs and found this list:
You want to look for the ones with the unlimited 30-minute sessions. The 250kw-1000kw plans aren’t very good if you plan to primarily use public charging like a gas station. It’s only been 2 months and in 11 sessions I’ve already used over 500kw.
The list sort of reflects the EVs I see at my local EA charging location. Also explains why the EV6 next to me didn’t stay for 30 minutes. 
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You could be grandfathered in, I know the PSC approved a number of changes a few months ago (I do know the fuel rate is dropping).
Now I need to talk to them again, if that is the case I’m going to be all over it.
It is crazy they have not offered any, substantial, lease incentives or Fed pass through. I am in SOCAL and according to CarGurus there are over 400 within 50 miles, some sitting for 134 days with no price adjustments.
I think they are still riding high on their hard to get vehicles.
Do any 3rd party banks do Ford leases?
Didn’t they lose 32G’s average per car per a recent report?
Coulda been 40 if they pass through the credit, I suppose.
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I think that’s fuzzy accounting.
And why lower prices if losing so much (which contradicts why they said they could lower prices)?
Something not adding up in Fordville.
Based on what?
My guess with price cuts despite losses is trying to move inventory, keep dealers happy, and build customer base who will hopefully continue to buy Ford EVs.
They print money with the ICE F150s so unlike start-up EV only brands, they have the money to absorb the EV losses.
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Well maybe it’s creative accounting.
Losing $32k seems like a high number.
It’s sort of like saying my lease payment is only $x per month without disclosing DAS. 
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The loss probably includes amortization of the enormous upfront investments on product design, R&D, building/retooling factories, etc., which is entirely legitimate, just as those metrics would be incorporated into P&L measures for every vehicle line they sell.
I seriously doubt Ford’s on a cash accounting basis for their multi-billion-dollar capital investments.
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Yes, all brands can say that.
Ford chose to separate their Model e division.
But that same report also mentions incorrect forecast of demand… but is it really?
They can move their EVs faster, they even recently said that the price cuts has increased demand on the Lightnings… but they are also one of the few brands who are not heavily incentivizing leases as far as I can tell.
What do you mean “say that”?
It’s called accounting.
“Accounting” is like magic or technology.
I’m not trying to argue the methodology, just the overall “boohoo we lose so much money on our EVs because we don’t know how to sell them” vibe.
Super high demand, raise prices, demand wanes, lower prices but say it’s due to lower production/material costs, then claim they overestimated demand so they are going to slow down their production, but then also say they are tripling production. Which is it?
They are trying to do what Tesla did but don’t have the control over final pricing like Tesla does.
So in the end, that $32k number means what?