OK, we are beating a dead horse here… but that simply is not correct on the 530e (both that I’ve had and they are tuned very differently between 2019 and 2023) and the GLC 350e that I drove with a dead battery. The four bangers in those are painfully underpowered (fully expected to share to load with electrical) and you simply KNOW when you are using ICE only. Yes, it is this bad! And, BTW, the 2.0L in the 530e is tuned way down from the one in the 530i. I suppose the only way to convince you is to get one from Turo - trust me you won’t need to look at any displays to know when that battery dies, you’ll just feel it.
The best analogy I can give you is a very dim flashlight right before the battery dies completely. Yes, the lightbulb kinda comes on, but…
Nov 14 (Reuters) - President-elect Donald Trump’s transition team is planning to kill the $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric-vehicle purchases as part of broader tax-reform legislation, two sources with direct knowledge of the matter told Reuters.
Ending the tax credit could have grave implications for an already stalling U.S. EV transition. And yet representatives of Tesla - by far the nation’s largest EV seller - have told a Trump-transition committee they support ending the subsidy, said the two sources, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
Sure, it’s gonna be bad for for Volvo and Kia/Hyundai. But they have significant overseas markets for their EVs where the price of gas acts as a built in incentive. The real losers are gonna be GM and Ford. Who are now going to have a real hard time justifying keeping EV production going.
That all said the real winners seem like Toyota and Honda. The non-LH demographic buying EVs probably isn’t going to flock to Tesla. That’s just not how it works when you have a deeply polarized nation. They aren’t going to start buying pick up trucks or full sized SUVs either.
They are going to be drawn to more affordable (because of the lack of an expensive battery pack), very fuel efficient hybrid mid-sized cars and SUVs. And of course, Honda and Toyota have a huge lead in that segment (see the best selling vehicles in America list).
I did a lot of 150+ mile round trips on my 4xe where I left at 100 battery and returned at <1. The power differential you speak of wasn’t noticeable to me and I got on it at every light.
You can totally treat it like a hybrid and never plug it in.
I think dealer that will scramble to offload PHEVs and EVs that don’t currently qualify for EV tax rebate. Assuming Musky loves free money, here is how I think, it will play out.
Nov: Musky - “Trump to kill EV tax credit. Buy my cars now, buy my cars now”
Jan: Musky - “We had our best quarter ever. Stocks have never been higher, I’m great”.
Feb: Musky - “Trump has decided to eliminate tax credit for PHEVs and closed leasing loop hole. I have single handedly saved US. EV. auto industry, bow to me.”
Trying to score a Taycan Cross Turismo on the cheap. Looking forward to terrible legislation that will make this possible for me.
Think Elon is excited to cut the tax credit because his cars are low enough quality that he can keep cutting the prices. They’ve sold enough cars to actually cover cost of development and operations so they’re way ahead of the competitions in that regard.
