If I search “Nationwide” it says I have to live in the state the deal is in. If I search “ships nationwide” in marketplace that means the deal is available no matter what state you reside in. What is the point of having the Nationwide tab under deals if you have to reside in the state the deal is listed in.
Im having a really hard time finding a deal in Michigan or someone to help me find a deal. Is Benndetto the only Broker that can help?
It seems like high volume dealers that want to move cars would be advertising what they can do to help!? Where are they? I have a hard time believing not one dealer in Michigan looks at leasehackr.com.
Ok so your point is Nationwide tab in deals is useless right?
Midwest usually doesnt have many local brokers, but a few ship there, look at the east coast ones or the ones who ship south as well
I would start with @AutoNinjas since they serve many areas
Michigan dealers in my experience, especially on the non domestic brands, are not terribly aggressive compared to ones in major metro areas.
We serve the whole east coast (all the way down to FL for some brands), and can ship the majority of our brands (but not all) at buyers expense to most states
Dealer ads on Marketplace would be very helpful if they were for Michigan and not mostly California ads or other states. It’s really difficult to find a deal to compare and get in Michigan. Hacking in Michigan is not an apples to apples comparison to other states unfortunately. Looks like my only choice is to have it shipped here but then how am I supposed to take advantage of state specific incentives?
That’s the problem. If a dealer in California advertises an EV deal on Marketplace I will not qualify for the deal. So hacking a deal like that in Michigan is not going to happen. Dealers here can’t even get close. And one pay leases that you see all the time on here are non existent in this state. Our apples do not come close to other states apples.
My BMW that’s garaged in Ohio was leased from a dealer in Virginia, and my target price was based on what I saw in Marketplace ads in the Northeast, and dealer and broker spreadsheets from Southern California.
I did our most recent lease in Ohio, after modeling an offer based on Texas and California Marketplace ads, and deals that others shared (none of which were in Ohio).
Certainly not every market is identical, but for the most part any geographic constraints are self-imposed.
There are concepts you need to learn to make this un-difficult, and they’re discussed here every day. There is a learning curve, but for me the time and energy required has been very much worth it.
I am assuming you have spent a ton of time emailing dealers in a certain radius and going back and forth with them? Most of which were ignored? It shouldn’t come down to this if it’s a dealer that sells high volume units.
I have to admit I have to commit to a certain car that I want. Right now I have just been price shopping for a great deal. Which seems to be a very easy thing to do in California. Pick an EV in California and they are just giving them away! Not the case here in Michigan.
No, the whole point is to not waste your time going back and forth with dealers.
California dealers are as much of a waste of time to go back and forth with as any other state.
The process is simple.
Establish a well-researched target deal based on the pre-incentive discounts found in shared deals/marketplace listings/etc and the lease programs as they apply to your personal situation.
Make a dealer an unambiguous, immediately actionable offer for a specific unit they have in stock
If they say yes, go sign. If they say no, move on to the next dealer. Most will say no, no matter what state you’re in. That’s fine. Move on until you find the one that says yes.
What most people do is skip step one, go ask dealer’s how much the dealer wants them to pay, and then are surprised when the numbers given are numbers that would make the dealer happy.
If you can establish an aggressive, but supportable, target deal AND understand why the numbers are what they are, you’ll have no troubles getting to where you want to be.
What most people do is skip step one, go ask dealer’s how much the dealer wants them to pay, and then are surprised when the numbers given are numbers that would make the dealer happy.
This is not me. I target a deal first. Never ask the dealer for a number.
If you’re “going back and forth,” you haven’t identified a target price. You say yes when someone accepts your target price, and you say no when they don.'t. That’s it.
Few markets have weaker demand for EVs than the Midwest.
I did our EV deal in Ohio this year with the first dealer I contacted, because the offer was well-researched and unambiguous, and we could sign right away.
If you think I got a great deal because of my geography, simply cross this imaginary line.
To clarify I am price shopping on leashhackr marketplace to find a vehicle at my price point. Once I do I will start sending numerous emails and play the waiting game. It would be a whole lot easier if there were deals in the pre-negotiated section to choose from. It would also be nice if I could post a topic such as "I am looking to lease an AWD that is $200-$300 per month for 24/12 and up to $1000 total out of pocket at signing. BUT…I know that is not what leasehackr is built to do.
However keep in mind as you have found out there are very few brokers / dealers on here that serve the midwest. The second thing which you appear to be on your way to doing in the marketplace is to see if this is an achievable target. If it isn’t achievable or even close then the post isn’t reasonable and you cannot then expect any kind of a response. Most times 36/10 or 36/12 is going to be a better deal then 24 month terms. You have to do the math to determine that based on the RV. Occasionally we do see 24 month being more advantageous (current Volvo XC90 deals) or 13 months when it comes to certain brands. It may help to become a super supporter in running the calculations.
Using the marketplace to get an understanding of your target price point is good. But different markets have different demand. A dealer in the northeast working with a volume driven broker may offer a much deeper discount than that of a dealer in the midwest that doesn’t have the same demand. So if you are finding that your area dealers are not playing ball, factor in NE broker fee + shipping charges and compare those deals to what is being offered to you locally, and see which is best.
I understand how all that works. 36 months is fine too I just am saying my first choice would be to find a program matching those perimeters. I find it difficult to keep a car for 36 months.
