Deal Check - 2024 Genesis G80 Electrified

This will be my first time leasing since joining LH. After seeing this post https://forum.leasehackr.com/t/genesis-g80-electric-for-304-mon-76k-msrp/601320 I went through every G80 Electrified within a 500mi radius over the past 3 months and found one that looked like a loaner since it had some mileage on ODO. It was, and they sent this offer after some back and forth and removing dealer add-ons.

I think it’s not bad for my first lease coming out of college, was just worried about getting approved on my own since my credit history is <1yr. I believe rebates are $23,250 for this month and the contract shows $22,250 so maybe I could have gotten it cheaper but my target price was met ($400/mon) so I didn’t ask. For NV it actually ends up being $385/m and has the Prestige Package (12.3in cluster, 360 cam, blind spot cam, etc etc) which was specifically what I wanted. I e-signed and will be driving it back to NV over the weekend.

Here is the review contract with updated pricing for NV:

The only thing I found weird was the contract shows it as an advanced trim, but the VIN matches up with the prestige trim and the photos on the website also reflect the prestige package. Not sure how to tell if its the 81k msrp car or 76k msrp car on the review contract, doesn’t specify the starting MSRP. I hope I don’t walk in and see an advanced trim somehow lol. Also a little confused on how taxes/registration will work, but I’m hoping I don’t get double taxed or something.

Let me know what you think!

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Looks real good especially since the high registration is baked in.

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You need to get a copy of the window sticker that includes the VIN#.

Please post the first page of your lease agreement. Can’t do a thorough job of analyzing your lease without it.

I was able to find it, matches up and has Prestige Package.

How can you tell? I’m under the assumption that I’ll be paying a decent amount for registration at the DMV

Your initial quote (the first Pic) shows 1200ish in government fees

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Dealers often omit a lot of relevant detail such as money factor, monthly base payment, monthly contractual payment, fees not itemized and even make mistakes as your dealer may have done. You need to rely on credible outside sources (e.g., LH marketplace and signed deals, Edmunds, etc.). Do your own research and establish a reasonable selling price in your market. Be sure to get a copy of the factory window sticker. Check for non-factory add-ons or dealer-installed options. And, if possible, eliminate those you don’t need or want. Get a list of all customer and dealer rebates/incentives including VIN#-specific discounts/incentives, if any. And, yes, the dealer has such a list.

All data should be vetted such as acquisition fee, doc fee (regulated by some states), cost of money (e.g., money factor), gov fees, residual, rebates/incentives, sales tax rate, etc. Make sure the residual matches the term and annual mileage requirement. Check available tax credits/incentives via the fund provider who may cover taxes or, at minimum, may assess a lower sales tax rate to energize sales for some models (e.g., Texas).

Let’s organize all relevant lease contract data with the goal of creating a lease proposal that reflects your target deal. The idea is to create your own target deal (proposal), not replicate the dealer’s deal.

Rebates are usually treated in one of two ways: (1) Compute how rebates will be allocated. Rebates are often used to cover lease inception fees with any remaining balance used as a CCR, or (2) Use the entire rebate as a CCR. Referencing option (1), I’ll spare you these calculations unless you would like to see how they’re done by sending me a PM.

Next, perform monthly payment calculations like those shown below.

Base Pay = .00088 x (50482.65 + 47233.60) + (50482.65 - 47233.60)/13 = 335.92

Contractual Pay = 1.095 x 335.92 = 367.83

Now, table all lease inception fees and how they are to be paid. Depending upon how the CCR is calculated (there are several different formulas), will determine the amount due at delivery (signing). Suggest that the CCR be calculated so that DAS = 0 or DAS = 1st payment plus Gov. fees. As a side note, I would not capitalize non-taxable fees such as taxes and gov. fees. In those states the tax the individual payment streams like NV, you’ll pay tax on capped non-taxable fees. As such, I would pay those at lease inception.

Observe that the 22250.00 rebate exactly covers the CCR as well as the remaining lease inception fees including 1st payment. The bolded line items in the first table and the bolded line items in the lease inception fees table may overlap to some extent. The corresponding bolded fees should be checked as some may have been duplicated or double counted.

Bottom line: Zero drive-off fees followed by 12 monthly payments of 367.83 each.

Commentary

Apparently, your dealer made some rather troubling mistakes. They miscalculated the CCR as well as the tax on the CCR. For instance, using their CCR of 19334.42, the tax would be 9.50% x 19334.42 = 1836.77, NOT 2029.58. The CCR should be 19526.18 and the corresponding tax is 1854.99. The CCR miscalculation caused the base payment of 351.60 to be miscalculated which, in turn, caused the contractual payment of 385.00 to be miscalculated. This is the fourth CA lease agreement in the last seven months from different dealers with identical mistakes, leading me to believe that this is intentional. Why? Because I believe their desking software may contain a CCR computational programming error. If so, they compensate so that the total lease inception fees matches the total rebates.

You may want to craft a lease proposal and email it to the sales manager (SM), not a floor salesperson as they’re often order takers and lack knowledge. All numbers should be accurate otherwise, you’ll lose credibility. Negotiate via phone/email. Once an agreement is reached, ask the dealer for a review copy of the lease agreement and all contract addenda BEFORE you go to the dealer and sign. Moreover, it’s helpful to know the terms and conditions of the lease contract such as early termination liability criteria and purchase option criteria as well as lease amortization methodology and excess wear/tear criteria. If all is as agreed, tell the SM that you’ll come in to sign right away. You don’t want any surprises or dealer excuses like …. Oh, we made a mistake. That’s unacceptable and shouldn’t be tolerated.

If the dealer isn’t transparent or is uncooperative or showing signs of incompetence, WALK AWAY AND MOVE ON!

Leasing is time-consuming and requires a good deal of study and attention to detail. If you don’t have the time to commit, perhaps your best alternative is a good broker. There are some outstanding brokers on this website. However, if you’re willing to commit your time and resources, always control the deal. That can only be achieved with education which breeds confidence and increases the likelihood of success.

??? Let me know.

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Hey, apologies on the late message (didn’t get a notification) but congrats. This is a very good deal. I think you beat my discount.

Let me know if you signed and what you think about the car.

Personally, I’m very underwhelmed by the battery, especially for a sedan. Its supposed to get 300+ but driving aggressively drastically shortens the mileage. Comparing it to my lyriq and EQS (for which I also drive aggressively), as a sedan it gets less miles on a 80% tank than either of those SUV’s. I won’t be renewing this after the 13 months are up.

I should’ve listened to another poster on my thread when he said he’s staying away from Hyundai/Genesis… I’ve learned by lesson.

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First off, thanks for posting your deal! It’s the reason I started looking. Much appreciated. :slight_smile:

I love the car so far, picked it up a little over a month ago. Range is admittedly lackluster, but I expected that going in. It’s advertised to give 282mi according to Genesis, and I’ve been getting about 260 when driving normally; I assume it’ll give closer to 282mi in the summer.

I also drive it aggressively and get about 200mi to a charge in the city, but it doesn’t bother me because I charge it at home. Took it to Laguna Seca Raceway as my support car (500+ mi drive) and back without too much issue either, just 3 stops to charge. Will not do that again but it was to try and see how well EVs do on road trips. If it gave 350mi, perfect. Until then it’s only good for the city.

For <$400/mon effective I don’t think any other EV is better to lease, though. 360 cam, heated/ventilated seats/steering wheel, decent driver assist features, massaging seats (kinda suck tho), fully digital display, motorized rear shade, and to top it off it’s pretty comfortable and looks great. Does NOT look like an EV, which is a huge plus imo. The downsides are the sound system, no sunroof, no heated rear seats and the range, but for a 13 month lease it’s all excusable. It’ll go by quickly.

I’d definitely lease another G80 EV; hoping the upcoming refresh ends up getting discounted like this one did. It addresses pretty much every downside this car has and is practically a G90. I’d either lease that or shoot for something like a V60 Polestar as my next lease if possible.

Hello, would you mind share dealer contact? I will try to see if I can duplicate your deal.

Lease support for 2024 G80 ended this month

Got it. Thanks. I am too late!

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