Not sure how you came to the conclusion that it’s not a good deal, when you’re comparing completely different scenarios.
Different cars. T6 is no longer produced and is hard to find, especially in the Inscription or RDesign trim.
The T6 is has higher MSRP and higher base MF
I don’t have APlan or Loyalty, as in your friends’ deals
Overall, the selling price was discounted by over 15%. I don’t see these kinds of discounts for these cars even on this forum (even for demos).
But I don’t think you know how much Volvo allowance is included in these 15%.
So what was the point of wasting everyone’s time?
There are other ways to show that you are a serious buyer.
Not sure how many folks are buying Volvos at MSRP.
Your strategy should always be to make the dealer an offer. They can either say YES or No. Pretty simple to me.
By not replying, you could’ve at least salvaged some of the extraordinarily large amount of time you’ve wasted.
Your question on the forum was if this was a good deal,l. Everyone seems to agree it’s not, except you. The same person who didn’t “like the car”. Why ask if you left the dealer not interested anyway?
It seems you went in there really wanting to steal the car because it was a 2021 and you thought a good deal could be bad. Instead you left with your tail between your legs and had to take your Honda home. No shame in that. Just ask for help instead of arguing with everyone over their disagreeing with the deal.
Not agreeing to the deal and leaving the dealership is now considered “leaving with tail between your legs”? Hah, ok buddy. I guess manly men just bite the bullet and take the deal they’re given! …What?
Regardless of how much I liked or didn’t like the car, I wanted to see what people thought of the deal. It might help knowing what to look out for next time. But I’d like to know what makes it a bad deal (that’s kind of the whole point). You brought up completely irrelevant deals to compare it to and I pointed that out. No need to get all bent out of shape.
Are you referring for the deal in the first post?
It wasn’t discounted anywhere near that.
There’s ~$5000 in incentives rolled into their “discount”
I didn’t bring up completely irrelevant deals to compare it to. You asked if a 2021 loaner was a good deal. I compared it to a 2022 non-loaner that was cheaper.
2021 loaner vs 2022 new vehicle
$51k MSRP vs $49k MSRP
$2456 DAS vs $2000 DAS
10k miles vs 12k miles
$600/mo vs $498/mo
$23,456 ttl pmts vs $19,430 ttl pmts
I never said the cars were identical. I gave a point of reference for you to see why it was not a good deal. With the T6 no longer available for 2022 and the existing inventory being low, it was just a comparison point.
This is all pointless. The best deal to be had is keeping your 2016 accord that you’re perfectly happy with. That will last many more years and over the time of what the Volvo lease would have been, will be a fraction of the cost.
“I took skinnypop into the movie theater but noticed they had day old popcorn for sale. It was discounted 15% but ended up not buying it because I really like my skinnypop better than the movie theater popcorn.”
Smh… pointless…