That’s would just open a whole can of worms and the mods would have to spend an eternity providing mediation services.
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I think the issue here is that if you offer a poll for all to vote then you may get a trusted that you and Victoria do not trust personally. What’s then? What is the point of the open vote when you make a decision in the end?
Moderate meaning slow mode, close, etc etc
Maybe not deleting posts per say.
I don’t think I’ve heard from a broker who wants to slow mode their own Marketplace topic. 
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Touche, got me there.
That would require a level of sophistication from the forum software that I suspect isn’t there.
Well yes, I’m sure the brokers would love to be able to auto bump their threads. 
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Sign me up! j/k.
That’s actually a feature of the forum software. Time to monetize? 
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Turn on that feature and you could raise the fees 3 fold and all the brokers would gladly pay it.
Absolutely. Squeeze this cow 
Will a poll be eventually created of the other thread?
Ditto, although I don’t think anyone quite reads as much as you do, bear. 
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@trusted_hackrs are knowledgeable and active contributors whose judgement this community trusts, hence they are granted with moderating privilege, though it is not an obligation to moderate.
So the only use cases for this suggested new group would be to recognize:
- experts who are not active;
- experts who are not trusted as community leaders;
- experts who have an inherent conflict of interest in moderating (i.e. businesses)
This would add an extra layer of complexity to the organization and would require us to define new sets of standards and procedures. If this encourages more meaningful contribution, I am all for it. But think of this: most expertise is shown through their active, meaningful contribution, which would make them @trusted_hackrs unless you are a business. Most businesses are already active and they are financially incentivized to make productive contribution. So we are really recognizing non-commercial experts who are not trusted or are no longer active (because once an expert forever an expert?) and distinguishing expert businesses from non-expert businesses, which we have dedicated an entire Review category for?
I get the merits of the suggestion. I am just not sure if the added complexity is needed given how tight-knit this community is.
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You definitely have 1 and 3.
2nd point is catered towards destructive mods, I don’t think this applies for this forum.
This is true it would add complexity, but as leasing becomes more popular many new information seekers and people looking to understand it will join the forum, you will need more “experts,” to cover different topics.
I think at some point different subforums for different manufacturers will have to be made for questions adding more complexity.
It would be good to be able to tag @bmwhackr… or @volvohackr, etc etc… for more complex questions or clarifications, it might be a while away but worth keeping in mind.
Like I said it’s worth the discussion, pruning is a good option as is defining new roles.
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I think we should be able to veto trusted hacker status by vote as well. There’s one in particular that nearly every broker and dealer would vote to veto but not sure if that’s allowed lol
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Great suggestions. Will keep that in mind as we grow.
Moved this to the discussion thread:
First, let me say that I think this is ultimately a decision for @littleviolette and @michael, and if you have specific concerns about something a TH says to a user, I would encourage you to bring it to their attention.
While I’ve learned an awful lot in my first year as a TH, and we have more discussion folks don’t see than what is visible, it’s 99% related to moderation. I appreciate the distinctions being made here about that, so I won’t address in this comment.
I brought Ethan’s comment for discussion because we rarely talk about moderating each other, and while I respect the experience the other THs share, there have been times I’ve shared observations and they weren’t taken, in a workplace I absolutely would have said (in private) “you need to take a week off”, but also knew it wouldn’t have been received the way it was intended. We don’t have “slow mode” for people, just topics (otherwise there are a couple users who might also benefit).
What I’m inviting for discussion from Ethan’s comment, instead of revoking a TH’s status — who probably has helped many, many users — is how we might be open to feedback, and for the almost-daily posters being willing to logoff for a few days (without taking that personally) if suggested that we need a break?
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We have activity on every user profile. Quantity != quality
The discussion about trusted/vetted whatever that can’t moderate: we have so many non-mod categories now (sponsor, tech crew, etc) that I can’t imagine a new user understanding any more distinctions.
you don’t make it easy sir there isn’t a class on how to do it, trial and error. Even if you know what surgically good moderation looks like, and what buttons to press, that doesn’t mean you will be good at it (the inevitable criticism aside).
In all the discussion about “inactive THers”, let’s not forgot the one we lost this year, and why.
Many of the less active THs still participate when they can, and when they do it’s valuable. It’s not nearly as easy as it looks from the other side.