Chrysler Pacifica Hybrid $14,590 discount

Hey everyone!

I’m in the market for a Chrystler Pacifica and initially had my eyes on a used 2020 model from Hertz/Enterprise. They throw in a 12-month/12,000-mile powertrain and transmission warranty, which is pretty sweet. But I just got offered a deal on a brand new 2023 Pacifica.

Market Value Selling Price 53,085.00
Discount (includes fed credit on clean vehicle) 14,590.00
38,495.00
Doc Fee 85.00
Tax 1,435.09
Non Tax Fees 1,641.75 //idk what’s this
41,656.84

What do you think of this deal? I’d love to hear your thoughts!
36 mo / 10k miles
$5k DAS
$605.28 + tax month

Appreciate any comments and estimates on the bottom line for this.

Pretty sure you can order a new one with a nice discount plus the $7500 and I believe there’s 1 more incentive on top off the discount + 7500 and you get a new one not a fart car

There’s 13k of rebates for this region plus dealer discount, not sure how much CA gets maybe @Jeff_BeachCitiesAuto can chime in he serves CA

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Is code for taking you to the cleaners.

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Maybe I missed it, but what is MSRP? These start at like $52k, right? So the market value selling price may be discounted to begin with.

The thing that kills this deal, well one of them, is the insane money factor thru Chrysler capital, it’s around 11% and the residual is something in the low 50% range if I remember correctly.

If you can get a bigger discount of the actual msrp, not the market stupid retail price, you might have a deal if you lease it. Then, refinance into a loan as soon as you can if you can swing it. This way you capture the $7500 tax incentive fully.

The lease deal here breaks down to about $27000 for 3 years, and that doesn’t even include sales tax per month.

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If some of your use-cases are road trips, travel sports, etc then I highly recommend driving one for 3+ hours before signing anything.

Chrysler has the worst seats in all 3 rows IMO. But it may not be apparent after a short test drive.

Which one do you think is better so I can compare? I drove the Toyota Sienna for a weekend and found the seats slightly more comfortable, but the difference wasn’t significant for me.

Cost of lease 27000, RV 25000 = 51000. Where has the 14590 gone ? Cost of lease for 3 years ?

YMMV I guess but my family has found it plenty comfortable for extensive road trips.

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Sienna over pacifica all day if for nothing else than for it’s reliability & value retention

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Yeah, I’m not impressed with their offer either.

I’ve come across numerous concerns about PHEV Pacificas and the recent recalls that have been causing the engine to unexpectedly shut down :see_no_evil:. On the fence once again.

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I came across a brand new 2022 Chrysler Pacifica Touring-L (Claimed MSRP $50,503 and $6,000 dealer discount which brings it to $44,503k). It’s important to note that it’s from the 2022 model year, not 2023. However, the dealer claims that it doesn’t qualify for the $7,500 federal tax credit, which surprised me. I did some quick research and it seems like it should be eligible for the credit. The dealer doesn’t want to offer a lease with a $7,500 discount.

I’m wondering if the dealer is correct or if I should try to persuade them otherwise? Additionally, it seems that the dealer is unaware of the California Clean Vehicle Rebate Project (CVRP).

There is a difference between if it qualifies for the federal tax credit or if the captive passes it along.

No far off current broker order discounts. Why not go that route and not worry about games.

And Kia Carnival over Siena?

I’ve never had a Carnival so I can’t speak from personal experience. Maybe @mllcb42 can chime in if he wants

The carnival is way way nicer than the sienna, unless mpg is your primary concern.

This video changed my mind on the Pacifica Hybrid for good!

Too many poorly engineered parts just waiting for early failure. Even as a lease, no one enjoys running to the dealership and dealing with loaners.

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So, here’s what’s happening. I got another offer from a local dealer on a new 2022 Pacifica Touring L. I’m not sure if I’m completely misunderstanding, or if there’s a hidden catch?

dealer texted me:

I’ve done all the calculations here (which could be helpful for others, especially if I’m overlooking something):

  1. Let’s begin with calculating the Net Capitalized Cost:

Net Cap Cost = Sale Price - Down Payment - Rebates Net Cap Cost = $44503 - $1500 - $7250 = $35753

  1. Now, we’ll work out the Depreciation Fee:

Depreciation Fee = (Net Cap Cost - Residual Value) / Lease Term Depreciation Fee = ($35753 - $22726) / 36 = $361.03 monthly

  1. Following that, we need to figure out the Finance Fee:

Finance Fee = (Net Cap Cost + Residual Value) * Money Factor Finance Fee = ($35753 + $22726) * 0.0000469 = $2.74 monthly //should be $274

  1. Lastly, we calculate the monthly payment:

Monthly Payment = Depreciation Fee + Finance Fee Monthly Payment = $361.03 + $2.74 (//should be $274) = $363.77 //!wrong

It seems the dealer didn’t account for the $7250 EV credit at all, or they used it as a “dealer discount”. Is that… absurd? Greedy? Suspicious? :slight_smile: