It’s not negotiation, it’s just how leasing math works 
As I said I agree one would probably have better luck in person due to limited inventory and the quantity of inquiries they’re probably getting.
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Good to hear your approach works for you. In my past exoeriences that is an area where negotiations break down.
Better to be prepared for challenges than to find unexpected dealer efforts the day of. I am working with you to say these massively subsidized corporate lease deals often have catches or so ive found in the past whereby any additional items not on the corporate program usually find dealers creating 100 percent depreciation outside of the corporate program and not budging FOR ME. SO…thats why I recommend find v8 camaros close to the exact msrp with minimal options above and beyond the advertised part via the interweb if possible before going in person to even begin making the deal in 15 minutes.
284 a month 294 down is a smoking deal…dont fall into the designed trap of taking a loaded car full of options…
I just bought a c8 corvette z51 fe4 1LT interior because i dont need or want all the little pieces of crap that come in higher luxury features in my sports car…
My opinion stands with the awesome 455 hp camaro 1lt lt1 …
Just buy or in this case lease the performance bargin of the century and leave the fru fru options for those that “really “ think they need that luxury crap…
Avoid the “potential” trap of tougher negotiation…
Im six decades in…ive been leasing subvented lease deals for my beautiful wife for years…the “additional” options on inventory cars on subvented leases often carry 100 % depreciation for my beautiful face in the dealerships.
Im sure your smarter and can manage these subvented deals upfront with additional option items better than I could face to face…
I know my areas of difficulty in the past on subvented lease deal negotiation so I tend to avoid the issue by finding lower optioned vehicles more closely matching the corporate program to avoid challenges.
Good luck guys and please share your deals so we can prove this other gentlemans proposal to be more accurate.
Im always ready to be taught new things…
Thank you
Again I look forward to you being correct and me being incorrect as some potiential deals come back onto tjis great forum.
Ok this has sparked my interest, I went over to Edmunds and asked for the 4cyl numbers. If they are anywhere close that should lease well too, MSRP is under $30k for the turbo
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I think the numbers are high on the lt1 because they know it will depreciate well, simple formula, tried and true v8, very little options, etc etc.
The numbers are lower on the zl1, and the ss.
Don’t bother with any other trim the ONLY deal in with the LT1 due to a really high residual and stupid low MF for a chevy.
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So many words when everyone just telling you that you wrong about:
and agree with you that lower optioned cars usually lease better
They do not and they can not carry 100% depreciation if they are factory installed options. The residual value, which dictates the depreciation amount, is set by the bank and can not be altered.
Now, what the dealership can do is mess with your selling price, significantly reducing the dealer discount amount, so that the monthly increases by an amount equivalent to 100% depreciation on the options. While the end result to your cost may be the same, that is a very different statement.
The issue is that if you go into the negotiations assuming the former to be true when it is actually the latter, you’re conceding to a significantly worse deal should you choose the additional options. As soon as the dealer catches wind that you’re misinformed on how the math works, you’ve put blood in the water and allowed the negotiations to go afield.
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My first few attempts at negotiating a lease also went like that.
I went in referencing an ad and they said “that one is sold.” There was another car at $2,000 more MSRP so it would cost me $2,000 + tax more. Either more money down or rolled into the payment
It’s only when I really learned how to calculate payments that I realized they were just taking advantage of me
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Yup the 4 cylinder program is garbage compared to the cheap V8, even the $10k less MSRP doesn’t help
.00155 and 57% 36mo/12k
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These are forums designed for proper communication. There is no limit to how many words are typed. If. You dont like how many words I type then dont read my shit you little sxum bag.
While you are correct in your assumption car dealers sell and lease the cars at their discretion …if you think you can get them to sell you a v8 camaro on a corporate program with a specific residual on added options then post up.
Ive been buying and leasing new cars longer than you are probably alive and in my experience once you deviate off the advertised special fir a vehicle with more options than the “corporate ad” thats where they bang you for the 100 % deprecation …
Im willing to watch and learn so I look forward to a camaro v8 lease here with an extra 4 grand of options come in as you suggest it will cost versus what Ive found over the years.
I believe you. I have just found over the years thats where in high demand lease deals advertised thats the FU point of a dealer who can lease it to someone else because its still such a smoking deal.
Please post up your msrp and lease payments to show your camaro v8 after you take delivery…
Higher optioned cars beyond 40 grand and closer to 50 grand leave more room for the lower percentage of lease inclusion.
You keep saying this and you keep being incorrect. That is not how the contractual requirements behind the lease work.
Just to further clarify, the dealer can not hit you for 100% depreciation on a factory installed option. If they do so, the residual value on the lease will be incorrect and the lease contract will not fund.
What they can do is jack up the sales price, giving less discount that the corporate advertised deal (which generally is a crap deal anyway, and rarely hard to get much better than). That may make you feel that they’re not residualizing the factory installed options, but that is not what is going on.
These forums are for sharing information so that those, even with years of leases behind them, can learn to put themselves in a more prepared situation for maximizing their leasing value. You’d be better off leaving the attitude at the door and realizing that time in field doesn’t make you correct here. Instead, take the opportunity to learn so that on your next lease, you can be more successful.
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Just tagged my name to this one.
Will paper in Dec, but take delivery when it arrives.
39/10
$273+Tax
DAS: $273+Tax @ Signing
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You are ranting for no reason. Just concentrate on what I said only, if you can, that is.
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Incredible.
As mentioned, Mr. Vaders Conveyance.
I always put a down payment on my leases and I always get good deals! I have leased for 25 years!
How is this Honda Accord Hybrid deal?!
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At that price id pay you a broker fee to get one. Got any more 
They wanted 10k down but I said 9k max. Really showed those SOBs
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I’m inking up at 309 Sign and drive for a 39,800 sticker car but hey maybe knowledge outweighs years of experience in these cases.
Awesome…enjoy that great v8…
You did great post up how you like it when you take delivery.
Glad my original post helped!