In addition to a $20 x 30 = $600 parking bill? Just Uber or shuttle it to the airport if you are going away for a month?
Thatās beside the point (they had 3 hour drive each way and free parking at a friendās place)
I found the term, itās āvampiric lossesā, and from my quick reading it seems that the Bolt doesnāt have any, which is good newsā¦
thereās an 8 year warranty on the battery
Going by this trend, hoping to see it go below $300 pretty soon.
Sure thing. May deal for bolt will be sub 300 and for year end clearance, I am forecasting at least 7k manufacturer rebate.
Reason:, the bolt was forecast to sell 2k to 3k units a month and is only selling 1k. GM is producing a surplus of 1k units a month. Sure it is getting sold out in Korea and Canada, but not here in US of A.
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Sorry, I know Iām late to the party with these posts, but can you elaborate on how the model 3 launch date has been continually pushed back? I put my deposit down on day one and keep pretty close tabs on Tesla news and havenāt heard a single thing about the Model 3 being delayed. Tesla promised a release of ālate 2017ā, starting with shipments to their employees and current Tesla owners. Last I heard they were still on track for that timeframe.
As for rangeā¦ Iām sure many Model 3 owners will opt for a larger battery which I anticipate will go up to 300+ miles. Even if Iām paying slightly more than a Bolt, the tech and significantly better styling of the Model 3 is well worth a $5k premium.
I think the only thing Chevy has going for them is that theyāre first to market at this kind of range for this price point and that theyāre actually available to be purchased where many of the 450k people on the Model 3 wait list will be waiting for over a year.
its 215 miles range and production is 2017. delivery is mid 2018.
You missed the part that says āDelivery estimate for NEW reservations is mid 2018ā. Deliveries for the early reservations is still scheduled for late 2017 as Tesla has said all along. Iām hearing now that they think some deliveries to employees and current Tesla owners could be as early as late summer. Also yes, 215 is the anticipated range for the base model of Model 3, but like I said, I think a 300+ mile version will be available.
lol then get a Tesla? i already know how awesome the Bolt is. and its here. and its already supposed to have better range. to each their own. over half my cust are from withdrawn tesla deposits. Battery vehicles developing so fast with a 215 range not being competitive, by 2018 normal production someone will have 300+ range.
215 mile range is easily competitive because of thousands of Superchargers nicely spaced out across the entire country. I wish I could say the same about CCS! 
Iāve had a CCS car for 2 years now.
CCS is probably ok in California but not most places yet. Checkout plugshare.com and see for yourself.
Iām in the camp that Bolt leases will be sub-$300 by the end of this year.
no worries, Iām not not saying the Bolt is a terrible car. Iām just saying itās going to be a lot harder for Chevy to be competitive with the Model 3 at the same price point. I absolutely agree with @ssspinball that the Bolt will have to have a sub-300 lease to really gain traction. Definitely not cancelling my Tesla order for the Bolt, but to each their own. 
Iām hoping companies like Chevy will come up with a better looking EV to encourage more competition.
The front of the Model 3 looks like a Dodge Stealth
I test rode in a Bolt. Itās nice and you can buy one TODAY.
My friend who drove the Bolt test drive was also one of those people who stood in line for 5 hours to secure two Model 3 reservations.
Heās for sure getting them, but both he and I agree that we want ALL car manufacturers to be competitive.
Iām glad the Bolt exists today. The Bolt is a nice car if you canāt wait for the Model 3. My friend will probably have his 1st Model 3 by this time next year. Itāll be the 2wd version we are assuming, as The awd version wonāt be available till later in 2018. Assuming his 1st Model 3 is good, he will max out options on his 2nd one.
The Boltās competitor is not only the Model 3.
As the first EV with > 200 mile range, the Bolt is support to be a viable replacement for fossil fuel single car owners. In that case, itās competing in a very active compact market. The direct replacement would be the Honda Fit, but in the compact market Chevy has the Cruze. With Cruze deals such as one pay of $1895.51 with $3k Asian lease, the Bolt is quite expensive.
If the Bolt is support to convert existing EV owners who need more range, how big of the market is this? How many people actually need a range of > 100 miles (after driving an EV with less than 100 miles for 3 years)? In addition, EV owners conditioned with <$99 leases are a tough sell for a >$300 lease for the Bolt.
I agree that itās hard to justify the 300/month for a bolt, but the Model 3 will be compared more to a 3-series bmw so the 35k pricetag will be a little more reasonable. As for the need for >100 mile range, this will obviously depend on your need and where you live. For me, I find 100 mile range cars to be way too little. A 100 mile range car will usually diminish down to 80 or so miles after a few years. Itās not unreasonable that in california a driverās work commute is easily 30+ miles each way. Thatās already 60 miles. Consider someone leaving work and running some errands, and youāre easily at 80 miles. Talk about range anxiety! I plan to pay for a battery upgrade on my tesla model 3 and Iām hoping for around 300 miles per charge. Should get me between san diego and los angeles without any worry.
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Thatās a good point about the Model 3 comp is a BMW 3-series. A Boltās comp is definitely not a luxury compact.
We also have a Model 3 reservation, but itās the enhanced autopilot and full self driving capabilities that makes it more compelling than the Bolt to me. Of course these features will add $8k to the $35k base price (assuming same feature prices as the Model S).
As our second EV, I am considering the Bolt. But at its current lease prices, Iām passing.
Iām excited about the autonomous driving capabilities too. Really hope itās getting close to level 4 autonomous driving capabilities by the time the Model 3 comes out! Also hoping they donāt make upgrade features as expensive as they are on the Model S. I guess we still have to wait a few months to find out!
If you are driving 80 miles daily, or even for 200 days, then leasing is not for you, whether itās a bolt, volt or bugatti 
Who said anything about leasing? Iām buying my Tesla! Really though, itās not about driving 80 miles EVERY day. Itās about those times where you need to drive 80-100 miles or more. Lets say you drive 50 miles a day regularly, but sometimes you need to drive an extra 30-40 miles for whatever reason. Range anxiety sucks. And like I said, Iāll be going to OC or LA on occasion, so that definitely requires a 200-300 mile range.