Zero discount and they hit you with the starguard? I didn’t bother looking but I bet the money factor is maxed on this too.
M340s are in short supply but at this price you might as well drive down to CA and swap into an M3.
You are correct
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Some dealers in socal here only discounting 7% off MSRP on m340i loaners, and won’t budge cause they’re selling
What do the discount the 7% from? The original MSRP? I tried finding the MSRP for this particular car on Edmunds with the VIN but got an error message.
Correct, 7% off the MSRP (sticker price). So your “market market value selling price of $63,260” seems to be the MSRP, and they only “discounted” to $60,260 by utilizing your rebate and not actually giving you a discount on the loaner. This is a horrendous deal. They’re selling you a loaner car for the price of a brand new one.
Usually you’d expect to get around 15-19% discount on a loaner car.
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Some dealers are best avoided.
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What should the MF be?
Buy rate is .00118 currently.
Generally, one should always get rv/mf/incentive information from edmunds before ever talking to a dealer. You should know exactly what price you’re targeting based on the current lease programs before you ever talk to a dealer, otherwise you’re left without knowing if the deal is good or not.
I know this car and the dealer. Inventory up here is fairly low right now. This is not a good deal for new, let alone a loaner. That this is a more highly optioned car, in a desirable color, with lower miles for a loaner also hurts.
I’d say sit tight for a while or look out of state if you need something now.
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StarGard is optional and can be removed upon final negotiating. I’d say try a different salesman if the one you are speaking to is not cooperating. I had success in Oregon on a loaner lease by being firm but polite. I know inventory is tight right now, but if you are ready to sign on the spot then I think you can more off the selling price prior to rebates being applied.
Probably not a lot of x drive in California, if at all. But no discount for a loaner is pretty bad.
Vehicle recovery system. Lojack by another name.
Generally, if you don’t know what something is, you don’t need it.
And once you do, you don’t want it.
If you want to get an idea of savings on a loaner, price a car with same equipment new. Sounds simple but car salesmen are trained to play on your trust and emotions!
To check the MSRP look at the window sticker!
Can’t find it look up the vin online. Dealerships prey on those who are impatient and have a “want it now” mentality! Keep your guard up and study it like your in school. Your grade is the deal you get. Most dealers will bandy about terms like loaners to generate traffic. I am unconvinced that a car with less then three thousand miles is anything but a demo being sold as a new car!
Thanks for the local input. I’m curious what you mean by saying that it’s not great regarding the color model, low miles and the low inventory on this car. Are you implying that the dealer has the upper hand? As far as I can tell the car has been sitting for 84+ days. Seems like it needs to be moved in my opinion. Not sure how to negotiate that and avoid being taken advantage of. Appreciate any further input.
Counters on how long loaners have been sitting can be very misleading, as it often includes the time it was being used as a loaner.
Yes, in my opinion they have the upper hand here for this particular car.
If the dealer feels they can sell it for the price they are asking, they won’t negotiate. While in your opinion it needs to be sold after 84+ days, it is just that - your opinion. You have to remember that part of the last 84 days was social isolation period when the dealers were largely closed, it does not count the way typical lot time would. Plus it typically includes time while it was a loaner. The relevant time period is how many days since they listed it for sale again? Sometimes you can figure it out, sometimes you can’t. Since overall inventory remains low, they aren’t going to blow out cars when they aren’t making it up in volume due to low inventory.
Also, to clarify, you are not being taken advantage of. You inquired about a car, they gave you a price. You are free to counteroffer or walk away if it is not a price you’re willing to pay.
My suggestion is to (1) wait a bit until inventory levels return to normal, or (2) shop in an area that has more inventory and thus is willing to discount more.
The thought here is that it’s a popular color, with low miles, and low/limited inventory = dealer can sell this easily.
84+ days on the lot is nothing. Typically is 60-90 days on the lot. Dealers don’t start worrying till 180+ days. Brace yourself… you may have to walk away from this deal
Based on the initial quote that was given from this dealer, walking away should have already happened.