Are too many newbies expecting a unicorn-type deal?

Has this forum turned into the Craigslist of leasing? I’ve seen more and more folks looking for OL codes and other incentives not in their name.

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It’s getting bad. Almost every buyer keeps asking for more off, even on cars that still have good discounts. That’s part of the point of using a broker. Please do not ask for more money off. We are doing the best we can in a crappy market.

I had someone email me this morning and I had to maintain composure and be nice.

“I know about the inventory issues but can we try to get a bigger pre-incentive discount because this will soon be the old body style with the ‘22 LCI. Using your calculator link, 15% off got it to $510 (incl 7% tax) and $3072 DAS which I would close on immediately.”

The car is posted at 8.5% off/10% with MF bump (Florida dealership). 15% off a brand-new car but he “knows about inventory issues.”

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Everyone will close immediately at 15% off on a brand new car. :grin::laughing:

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While I recall somewhere in this thread you another broker discussing clients asking " for just a little more off " and how it’s completely unreasonable. Part of the misconception here stems from a car being someone’s more expensive purchase. People equate to another very expensive purchase that they make like real estate where the broker represents someone to the market and negotiates the best price for them and represents only their interest. Making an assumption that people think you are representing them and are negotiating on their behalf isn’t a stretch. If people don’t ask, of course they won’t get it. With inventory tightening I personally wouldn’t ask and thankfully I am not in the market right now.

Several brokers / dealers on here will occasionally say, " it’s getting toward the end of the month and the GM / GSM / Owner is looking to move a few more units so it’s 2% more off or first month paid for " or a salesperson saying we need to move a BMW today. When other brokers / dealers do this on here it isn’t unreasonable for a buyer to think that their is a few more % to play with. I completely realize you aren’t magically bridging a 6.5% gap as you mentioned in this latest story.

In your marketing or form or website put in bold letters, NO NEGOTIATION, DO NOT ASK for MORE OFF. Just put it as a footer on your emails.

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I have not seen any such “deal alerts” from BMW brokers this month.

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Yeah because there’s nothing to sell :joy:. According to my statistics, we’re down 40% m.o.m on sales.

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Nice work on your Audi deal!

I haven’t seen any of those “deal alerts” either this month. Since you skipped over the point I was trying to make, do you at least see where I was trying to add some constructive feedback to the forum and to look at from maybe a different angle?

I do agree with you.

There are a lot of newbies on this site who don’t want to do any work or think they can ask for more $$ off when looking at broker deals (even in this current market). Nothing wrong with asking for a bigger discount, but you and I (and most folks on this site) are aware that broker deals are pre-negotiated deals with a fixed discount, whether you buy on the first day of the month or on the last day of the month.

I believe some brokers have started posting that info in their threads/spreadsheets.

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Speak for yourself, LOL!

It happened again today. Someone else looking to trade for my Penfed code, even after telling them it was non-transferable and I did not have one to share.

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What a hot mess that Camry thread ended up being. Good thing I did not bother commenting.

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Ya, but can I have your penfed?

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What about as a trade for the Employee Discount? Maybe you can co-sign and he can move-in temporarily to register the car to your address? /p

There should be a hall of shame for any hacker who asks for a Costco or Penfed who has been in this site more than 6 months.

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There should also be a wall of shame for anyone (newbie or vet) asking for a code after being told it is non-transferable.

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Isn’t that just the meme lounge?

We could have a new thread called the “Meme Lounge Rejects”. :grin:

“My friend has corporate/loyalty/military/a brain. Can I use his?”

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Reading some of the messages on your thread makes my day. :grinning:

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And you have no idea about the emails, calls, etc. I get every day. Some customers/potential customers are great, while others…oy.