Do unicorns exist with Audis?
Sorry! Same then, thought you had costco.
I never had the need to shop at Costco.
Do they exist at all or someone just came up with that idea?
The power of cheaper premium gas and $1.50 hot dogs compels you!
Iām trying to understand the comment on value. Mostly because Iāve been looking at the x3 and now I get nervous seeing comments like this.
What is the determinant of value here? I think a lot of folks assume % off msrp or leasehacker score or something like that.
Is the x3 only worth it at some monthly price in your mind? Just trying to understand.
Value is much harder to quantify. It really comes down to what else can you get for the same total lease cost in other products. LH score or percent off is irrelevant. What if you have a vehicle that has a lower msrp than the competition, but isnāt incentivized/discounted as much? You could have a vehicle that has a lot of value but has less discount/a poor lh score.
X3s lately have been rough in the value game because bmw pricing on leases had been insane. For years, one could get an x3 30i reasonably at a price point not far off a crv. Thatās a lot of car for the buck. Now, even with a great deal, youāre paying hundreds more. It ceases to have a compelling value.
4-6 weeks ago that could be the q5e or the etron. Today thatās evaporated I think right? CA electric rebate is even paused. Maybe you can swing a good deal on an sq5 which is a better car than an x3 I guess. To me the only value left is leasing a bolt and I seriously just canāt bring myself to do it. Anyway thanks for humoring me on thisā¦itās just not a pleasant time to look for value and my entire career has been focused on unlocking value so itās hard to stomach.
Biggest issue with etrons right now is inventory. The programs got worse from March to April, but theyre.still not that bad IF you can find someone to go deep in the discount. I donāt think it was the ccfr incentive that was paused, so the etron shouldnāt be effected.
Iām not even unicorn hunting but pretty much most BMW NY dealers near NYC wonāt even consider 10% offā¦ How easy is it to get 10-12% off??? 7% off pre-incentive is most Iāve been quoted so far. Most client advisors think Iām crazy for even asking 10%ā¦
Inventory is the issue for all manufacturers. Somehow the bolt is the only car available widely.
Cast a wider net
I believe CVRP and CVAP are on hold. ccfr is still available I believe.
Typically, a brand runs a multi-month Costco program once per year. Last year, a couple of the spring programs were repeated in fall (and like always, you had to be a member the day before the program starts). Personally Iāve never seen them add another month to an existing program.
Its as easy as looking at the broker listingsā¦
Weve seen 11% on X3s recently. Of course, subtract out the broker fee and its now maybe 10%, but thats with no work on your end.
The only thing I have to ask of people is to please stop asking brokers if we can ādo a little more off.ā No, the discount is fixed. Thatās part of the point of using a broker. This especially irks me when a car is already 11% off.
Lately there has been some hometown advantage regarding local customers (Primary market area)
So while itās not an invalid ask, itās bad ettiquete to haggle with a broker as we often give you our best offer on engagement. ā If thereās better pricing to be had, You wonāt have to ask me for it.
What is recently and where? I ask because I donāt quite see that happening too often anymore (maybe ny x3 prices are better who knows).
Quick Update: The A6 deal I had lined up last week fell through 'cos my local dealer straight up lied to me about not being eligible for Audiās pull ahead program. That meant I would be responsible for the last two lease payments on my A4 totalling less than $900.
I have been receiving emails from Audi Financial about the pull ahead program. I was able to confirm with another dealer, after I had provided them with my VIN, that I was eligible for the program. So, it is now May and I do not have a new lease. Although lease cash increased by $500 to $5500 for the A6 55, MF more than doubled to 0.00011 and RV went down by 1%. Not much of an increase in monthly, but big discounts are getting hard to come by.
Audi dealers are milking this low inventory āissueā. I do not blame them. However, as a potential customer deals are getting hard to come by. Iāve reached out to at least 5 dealerships within an hourās drive from me, and so far numbers look worse compared to last month. I am waiting to hear back from one more dealership, and if things donāt work out, I will probably go the broker route (I have been in touch with a broker in my area, and he has been very helpful).
All it takes is one YES, but LeaseHacking aināt easy.
To any newbie reading this or anyone looking to get into a new lease between now and August, my only advice is KNOW YOUR NUMBERS.
It isnāt about just knowing the numbers. Thatās all well and fine. But the simple āIām targeting X% off MSRP before incentivesā just isnāt getting the same traction it used to because there arenāt enough cars on the lot and if you donāt want it, thatās cool because Joe Blow doesnāt go on LH and will pay list.