So… my 4xe Sahara has been at the dealer waiting for a new inverter for nearly 3 months. I’m filing a California lemon law claim which which I can play one of 2 ways.
1 - Make Jeep refund my original $14k one pay, walk away and continue leasing my 2020 Hyundai Ioniq se EV for 8 more months until the lease is up. Likely I’ll get some positive equity (residual about $18k) then.
2 - Make Jeep give me a new 4xe (no idea if will be 22 or 23) which will continue on the one pay lease for 24 months. Then take up current offer from a Hyundai dealer to take my ioniq for $5k positive equity now.
Leaning toward option 1 because a full ev suits me and hoping some good ev deals will have emerged by next summer. Also suspecting 4xe residuals are going to continue to tank which would make it hard to recoup costs, but open to advice!
Just to be SURE, you are having a Lemon Law Laywer file that claim right? If not, you are going to be in world of hurt as OEMs don’t just accept Lemon Law claims, they fight them. (Lawyers are paid by the OEM after the claim settles, you don’t pay a dime)
He has a valid question. He isn’t asking for advice on the lemon law process which OP seems to have under control - although yes, he should be using a lawyer since the OEM covers the cost and it makes the process easier.
OP - I like option 1 more with the caveat that it only works if you don’t need the additional space or capabilities of the 4Xe.
I think I was a bit harsh in my wording but I stand by the message. These questions would be better answered by a lawyer, in my opinion. A lawyer could advise on all the options Stellantis would be willing to entertain, and the best outcome for OP.
My lawyer was great, she advised me on the best outcomes and helped me pursue the best option for my situation. When the time came for final settlement her experience working with the manufacturer in the past let her let me know how they’d deal with my case and such I got an outcome I was very happy with.
The posted “options” sound more like someone making assumptions about the potential options they want to pursue, rather than what a lemon attorney would state.
To more directly answer the question, I would pursue the buyout amount ( (1-miles of first issue/125k)*total cost outlay) rather than a collateral swap.
Thank yes, I have the legals all covered and I am making the decision of whether to request a refund or replacement vehicle. I do not need 4xe off-road capabilities
Two of my former Lemons while living in CA, one leased out of state. Can confirm that the process/settlement was different whether or not the vehicle was leased in CA. It’s not that you get nothing, it’s just not as good.
I leased a Ford vehicle in Arizona, and then I moved to California while the vehicle was having ongoing issues. I had to lemon it out of AZ.
They paid me $4,500 to keep the vehicle, I only had eight more months to lease it anyway. And the issue was fixed. The active grill shutters were being activated through the middle of the night killing the 12 volt battery lol
OP - do you have any more details on what kind of 4xE Stellantis is going to replace it with? will it be the same as yours, better, etc.?
were you happy driving the jeep?
I’m leaning option 1, just because there aren’t really any good deals at the moment and the likelihood of you finding something better than a $14k onepay lease seems to be fairly slim at the moment.
also, jesus christ how did we get 12 replies in and only one person managed a throwaway answer to OP’s question? i understand that everyone’s first inclination on LH is that each poster is a special type of moron who doesn’t know what they’re doing and is worthy of scorn, but this is ridiculous. poor bastard gave us an A/B question and you guys are badgering the shit out of him/her about state lemon law legalities.
Ultimately, the nuances of the lemon law details are really the only part of the conversation where we can actually provide any info of value. All of these “should i do A or B?” conversations are driven by personal preferences and situations. There usually isn’t much help that can be done there.
The case has been approved and the OP is asking for advice on the two options. Why can’t this community help?
Assuming you leased the 4xe because you wanted it for your primary, and you still enjoy it more than your current one that has equity, I would take the cash and get the new 4xe. Also, cash today may not be there tomorrow, 18k residual or not.
