T-Mo/Sprint will follow on March 31st. This article has a list of affected Telematics/Infotainment systems:
The Drive compiled a list of every car that’s going to be impacted by the sunsetting of the AT&T, T-Mobile and Verizon 3G networks in 2022, with links to the official OEM pages listing which services will be discontinued or altered:
Stellantis acknowledged that some models across its fleet will be affected, but it did not break down which specific vehicles across its various sub-brands of Alfa Romeo, Chrysler, Dodge, Fiat, Jeep, Maserati, and Ram.
The following automakers have told us that its US vehicles are unaffected by the end of 3G:
Ferrari
McLaren
The following automakers did not provide information by publication time:
Bugatti
Ford
Hyundai
Infiniti
Jaguar
Kia
Lamborghini
Land Rover
Mercedes-Benz
Nissan
Rolls-Royce
The only prior discussions I found mentioning the 3G EOL on LH were:
I’m old enough to have been an AT&T TDMA customer (and Nextel, and before that the original CDMA before Verizon existed), and suffered through moving a commercial product with embedded cellular off AT&T’s 2G/EDGE network in favor of 3G. Technology marches on, sadly your car may not.
It was definitely on the market (radios and the networks). Real talk: LTE radios were more expensive than 3G radios, and the power management took a while to sort (not unlike 5G radios). If you could claim your car has realtime cellular, nobody was challenging whether is was 3G or 4G or LTE. It would get real until tomorrow, and then people will ask why their out of warranty car isn’t getting OTA beep boops anymore.
I can’t find it ATM, but I recall making the same comment about GM and the Volt: I think they hung on to 3G until the last year or two and switched to LTE, and my recollection was barking at the moon about $30 in BOM cost on a $20k+ purchase to hold off obsolescence 5 more years.
If you thought people who suddenly couldn’t sell their lease to a 3rd party were mad, pop some popcorn.
Edit: Apple released the iPhone 5 in September 2012 with LTE, and it was not the first phone to support 4G
Tesla owners will be just fine, I just read their service bulletin and posts, WiFi OTA will be available, and 4g modem upgrades are a reasonable $200 incl installation.
Interesting sidebar about the Volt. Why care about obsolescence if you’re nixing the whole concept and product going all in on evs.
Also how many arch enemies do you have other than Ford, Mazda, and AT&T
While usually tech savvy, I’m unsure of what impact this will have, for someone like me who does not intentionally use any of the wireless services built into my vehicle (one a 2015 Jetta). DMV has never requested a smog check on this car, assuming all along that the data was already at their disposal over the cellular network…is this a correct assumption? If the 3G network were to be disabled, I can assume I’ll get a prompt at the next reg period to get a smog check?
edit: it appears a vehicle has to be 8 years old to fall under the CA smog check requirement…this was news to me, something changed somewhere!
Ford isn’t on that list (one is on my current short-list), and Mazda could buy their way back in my good graces if they wanted.
Years ago, AT&T signed what is effectively a permanent restraining order. Their inability to talk to me includes the DirecTV hawkers at Costco (hard to enforce in practice).
Yeah it’s totally unrelated to smog or emissions. It impacts Infotainment and/or Telematics, depending what the OEM used cellular for.
Some cars get traffic data over the cellular network (in lieu of XM or FM). IIRC from my 2016 GTI they used it for VW Connect, so if your car has 3G and you use that — it’s dead.
My Volvo has a 4G radio, besides the convenience telematics
SOS
calling customer care without a phone
reporting location and gas levels to app
app based remote start
I use my app sometimes to lock/unlock without the key. If my car’s radio was 3G, that wouldn’t work anymore.
If OnStar or MB or BMW customer care ever unlocked your car remotely, and it has 3G, dead
Noticed that Hyundai BlueLink is missing from this thread. I can share some more detail:
Hyundai BlueLink is affected, they use the Verizon 3G network in the US on models thru 2016.
That Verizon network is still running thru EOY, but I believe Hyundai already shut down the BlueLink for most impacted customers last month, and is turning off remaining customers tomorrow.
