Damn straight. If nobody works, think how cheap everything will be.
Iâm at a loss to understand how matching tariffs with everyone else is bullying.
Serious questions, how many manufacturing jobs are being promised because of tariffs, and how many are willing to do it at âmiddle classâ wages? Because as a first generation american I will tell you it is not my dream to work my ass off and put my kids through college so that they can work in a factory putting a car together.
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Because the implied deal over the last 30 years was,
- Europe and Canada will mostly listen to the US for foreign policy.
- Europe and Canada will buy advanced American weapons and allow their domestic weapons manufacturers to close allowing America to be at the forefront of defense.
- US will militarily defend Europe and Canada from anyone.
- US will have unprecedented influence over the vast majority of the world.
- US will allow their markets to be open in exchange.
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This attitude is why Trump won. And you guys still donât get it. Eh whatever.
See the issue is that you think, itâs just tariffs. Itâs not. This is geopolitics, not economics.
Either way, letâs hope Iâm wrong and youâre right. I just got my 911, I wanna be able to afford it.
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And itâs high time for all that to stop. I donât want to be the worldâs policeman. Weâve spent a few hundred trillion dollars doing that since WW2. Enough.
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The world punches the US
The US punches back
The world then says, hey why are you hitting me dude?
And then the free trade purists at all costs go yeah man, Americaâs being really mean, whatâs up with that.
Itâs really hilarious.
Two questionsâŚ.did you get a Presidente margarita at Chilis?
Second, should BMW, VW, Mercedes, Nissan, and Toyota be given credit for the fact they all have factories in the United States along with whole ecosystems built to support them obv all supporting decent jobs for a good number of Americans?
Iâm not a free trade purist nor am I necessarily against certain tariffs but I am curious in the above question.
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Itâs crazy how polling shows that oneâs opinion of the president is probably the most important driver on oneâs opinion on how the economy is doing.
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Then the world doesnât have to treat us like the leader of the free world that we are. We might make more Fords and CDJR but no one will buy our F35s and Patriot missiles. Canada doesnât have to listen to the US regarding national security and can listen to China instead. They donât have to use the dollar as the de facto currency in the world when they can use the Euro. The rest of the world can pull money from the US markets and stop subsidizing American inflation and interest rates.
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I did not. Not sure what that is. My wife got some margarita thing though, IIRC. Maybe? I had the fajitas. 
BMW and the rest do get credit. Cars they make here as well as parts they buy from the US are not subject to the tariffs.
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And Iâm fine with that. I donât want to be the worldâs policeman anymore. Instead of sending trillions every year abroad, letâs keep that home. Weâll be OK.
Everyoneâs happy then.
This is literally the same response I get everytime I ask 
Dude its a serious question, we talk about jobs and bringing back manufacturing but when companies come back with shitty salaries or 3rd world country working conditions (bc they have to protect their bottom line and compete) the âmiddle classâ is upset. Tariffs doesnât solve the fundamental issue of manufacturing. To do that (probably over simplfying it) you need to remove unions, public company status, deregulate working conditions, surplus of laborers (which for some industries used to be from immigrants) and then greatly subsidized that industry with govt money in order to make products affordable for the mass. Considering all that, why should manufacturing define middle class?
If given the option to be a technician, doctor, lawyer, teacher (get paid properly), I can go on.
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Basically they said get your financing elsewhere haha.
Thereâs no more CFPB to give a care anyway.
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The factories they have are for the low cost stuff. Engines, transmissions, etc are imported and added to the final product. The factories are more or less glue so to speak. Not speaking an opinion, but adding context.
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Not to be a jerk, but as a 1st generation American, what is your dream? To come here, work hard, and no future generations have to work?
There are some quality high paying jobs at auto factories. Iâd imagine early factory workers at Tesla who were smart with their stock options are multi multi millionaires. Iâd imagine others have secure well paying union factory jobs too. Attitudes like this hurt American opinions on immigration. This attitude wreaks of entitlement. I guess I am a jerk, sorry.
So Learn To Code.
Cool.
Except hold on a second all the coders are being replaced by offshore coders.
Learn to Medicine? Thatâs kind of an AI thing for the future.
Learn to accounting? Nope, thatâs 100% AI in the very near future.
Whatâs left? Oh wait a second. Learn to lay down pipe.
That implies being a doctor, teacher, lawyer, engineer, are not hard working jobs..
First generation immigrants literally built america. So no Iâm not saying future generations should be lazier. Iâm saying as a parent we typically want our kids to be even better or have options on what they want to do. How is it entitlement if Iâm working hard to ensure my kids donât have to go ghrough the same exact advertsities that I had to?
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No it doesnât.
Furthermore, your post is shitting on factory workers. They go to work, work hard, and a good portion probably earn a nice living and provide for their own families.