$45K, according to one article, actually. 
I actually think the Crown Signia is quite handsome. The problem is that I don’t know if anyone is really looking for a 5-seat SUV that’s that big on the outside (almost 8 in longer than the Venza), even if it’s a hybrid.
Audi Q8, BMW X6, Atlas CS, etc have entered the chat
The Camry AWD hybrid is a big win over the Accord Hybrid.
Don’t forget the Crown now comes in a Hydrogen Powertrain!
Unfortunately only in Japan. @anon65069371 in shambles.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a45781284/toyota-crown-sedan-japan-revealed/
Good point. Did I not think about most of those cars b/c Audi and BMW are true luxury cars, whereas the Signia will be a bit of a tweener?
I was thinking more of cars like the Murano and Edge. Do they sell in substantial quantities? I assume not.
Honda Passport fits into their category and is an obvious competitor (aside from lack of a hybrid option). Maybe the Passport and Signia will split the market btw those who want ICE and something more “trucky” and those who a hybrid and something more luxurious?
The Atlas CS just gets a big shrug from me, although I think the updated interior is nice.
I think making the Camry hybrid-only is a great idea (assuming they don’t hike up the prices too much). Even the LE/SE seem well-equipped.
I just had a 23 Camry SE rental for a few days. Used a key ignition lol.
Had everything blacked out so I guess was a base SE with one package. Maybe $29K MSRP. About the price of a Model 3 RWD after tax credit. Are the Camrys the new Nissan Sentras and Versas?
Most people who are getting a Camry or Accord need it not want it. People don’t buy this because it has the best tech or screen they only buy it for reliability same with Lexus. I assume lease price will be around $500+ for a $40K commuter car.
I did 4500 off some limiteds
Base Camry le gas is over 500…
Can confirm. I really just need a good daily, I dont commute but i go to the gym every day which is like 15 mins away from me.
If you don’t get to the gym first, then you’re last.
In all Fairness that’s little more than a fanciful Mirai that would overlap with the LS in some ways.
Underrated comment lol. Still not over that terrible commercial.
What commercial???
Were you even alive in 2006, bro?
Hybrid is the new gas. The Sienna is already hybrid only. A lot of people don’t even want a plug-in hybrid; they think it’s too much work to plug it in every day. I think the previous Toyota CEO had it right all along. I wonder what the Lexus version of the Crown SUV will look like.
Side note I love that YouTube forces a 16s commercial before I can watch a 31s… commercial.
I had a rental Camry of that generation. Maybe not fair to judge a car based on a rental, but it was truly a piece of sh@t, as in, I don’t feel comfortable driving this car at freeway speed, piece of sh*t.
I think it was that generation that might’ve prompted Motor Trend to pointed say that they thought Toyota was being cynical by resting on its laurels and producing such a dreadful car (very unusual for a mainstream mag to make such a comment).
That’s a car with a MSRP of $26,420 and it’s possible that it’s even a cheaper fleet version. Not sure if Toyota offers even more bare bones versions of the Camry for fleet sales. But even if they don’t, with a fleet discount that is one of the cheaper cars in America.
And they fired him. Even though he was the grandson of the founder. The new ceo even admitted he was right about not jumping into ev too fast.
Who’s pushing these companies to make these bad decisions? No well run company or their board would make/allow these terrible choices, but the big funds and politicians pull the purse strings.