Wheelbase.
The ratio of a 2,850 mm wheelbase to what?
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That didnāt explain anything. He just said theyāve been using a golden ratio since the 80.
Thanks for the info, Iām not sure why it bothers me so much but it seems like a terrible waste of space
True, but think of this way, a full size (at least in toyota speak) that weighs in at 6100 lbs was pushing 14-17 MPG or less on average with 403 ft/lbs of torque
This thing is a bit lighter, with 27MPG with 465 ft/ls of torque, and the battery is isolated inside the cabin. Its whole lot better on the wallet and smiles per gallon for what it is.
This should just be called a 4runner (I know historically the 4runner is an SUV on a Tacoma chassis)
True, but the chance to sell more BOF with the LC tax is priceless.
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preface this with, have not personally sat in the LC, but sitting in the Tundra, I came back feeling the same way for TGNA-F products.
The interior seems out of place for a 55k+ vehicle in terms of material quality.
Anyone who wants to be excited about interiors should not be looking at Toyotas lol
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55k is cheap these days. What pre inflationary planet are you on
You can get definitely get nice interiors at $55k and below. Just not Toyotas.
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Can you get Toyotas depreciation as well?
I sell Toyotas bc they sell themselves. I donāt cheerlead any brand. But I see plenty of brands underwater and itās very very rare that anyone comes to me with a Toyota that has no equity unless they got screwed. They donāt innovate as fast bc they donāt have to.
A LC buyer isnt looking for the same thing as a Palluride buyer, but they are looking for quality in the material choices. TGNA-F products are refreshing designs, just donāt feel as durable and thus less perceived quality.
I appreciate the sales perspective, and no doubt these will continue selling themselves, but their long lasting reliability Toyota has built up as a brand is under question with the 24 LC.
Toyota innovates a heck ton, with a gazllion industry firsts (nav, self park, hybrids, CVVTL), but for pure profit they kind of shelve whatever they deem unnecessary.
Nav was done by first honda
Self parking was done by first by vw
Hybrids were first done by porsche, with the modern systems developed by TRW
Variable valve timing was first done by cadillac with alfa being the first modern application
Toyota was the first large market application of nav, self parking, hybrids, etc, but they hardly were the innovators behind them.
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If Wikipedia is to be believed, VW proposed a self-parking system, but the first application on a car was Volvo (in cooperation w/ university students).
They āproposedā it by demonstrating it on a concept car, but didnāt put it in to production.
Ugh, I misread the Wikipedia entry. Yes, it was indeed shown on a concept car.
The whole Toyota reliability thing is for their older designs. Because of modern EPA and emission rules, you have overly complex start/stop turbo hybrid engines (Prius hybrid and RAV4 Prime donāt use turbos). Mechanical bits need constant maintenance. Sure Iād love to go back to diesel engine reliability but not with the current emission rules around the world.
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