What’s the real range on this, if it shows 240 
lol i think taking a picture of a note to a non-believing sales guy is “trying hard”
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Today was the effort day, statement was accurate at the time. Sadly, didn’t get to where I wanted. I did have a feel good moment as I passed off the 3rd or 4th best Scat Pack deal I’ve seen on this forum to another member (sub $200 fully loaded). He opened up his negotiation with me for bottomless breadsticks at Olive Garden, but I closed him for some Bloomin Onions.
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You’re trying to get a pre-tax sub $100 2024 scat pack that is maximum options? And you thought you’d have luck with a FL dealer? You crazy lol.
Even if you got that hack down to what you wanted, the GM would probably give the deal to an employee out of spite haha.
Imagine a showroom has had a max optioned scat pack sitting on the floor for the past year. Every day everyone on the floor sees this shiny max-option triple nickel. Every time anyone comes in asking about the car they get quoted $1,000 monthlies.
Now you show up talking about your Porsches and how you want it for $99.
Who said anything about pre tax 
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On the plus side when someone is willing to take that car for $200 monthly, your stalking horse bid will make $200 sound amazing for the dealer.
I’ve been trying to replicate this guy’s $42 deal all day, he was just right place/right time.
Also, the dealers are out of time. Maybe the manufacturer will work on softening half the blow on the tax credit, but no chance they’re just going to swallow the entire thing, none. Plus 2024s? We’re 3 months out from 2026.
And people are being quoted $600-$800 still? It’s like I’m in bizarro world. Do these dealers not understand the clock is just about to strike 0 here? Best I did was high $1’s, pretty upset with myself, fairly certain it’s coming across in my posts too.
Leasing is a shell game to begin with. What’s the difference between a $7500 rebate and the bank deciding next month the RV should be X points higher. Why should the dealers be in any rush when the market is effectively in open collusion to all raise prices at the same time? Days on lot might mean they are ready to move it but more likely means they are unwilling to sell it at a price it will move. Since, beginning with MY26, they are starting to cancel Charger Daytona production, production will only decrease.
Wholesale prices are very close to the adj cap cost ($53,902) of this deal with no customer liability.
2024 DODGE CHARGER DAYTONA 2D COUPE SCAT PACK
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I worked with a dealer on 2024 wag last month. Instead of taking my offer he seem to have marked it down as used and probably collected incentives. The car has still 20 miles on it. No one yet rulled out a bit of self-dealing to capture incentives. I suspect “soft” dealers might have a plan B on 2024.
Any plan involves them losing money, regardless of Plan B. Furthermore, when Plan A was created, there was a free $7,500 in there for the manufacturer, so Plan B is a disaster regardless of whatever it may or may not be. Production was canceled on the R/T only (just had to look that up, I’ve only been on this car for 36 hours), the Scat Pack still alive with no demand except bottom feeders like us. The issue with the Manheim chart above is the overwhelming amount of new 2024 units (this isn’t 2022, cars don’t appreciate, especially 240 mile range EVs). There are still somewhere around 300-500 brand new (2024 Scat Pack) ones that need homes. If they got rid of most of them quickly, those numbers at Manheim would plummet. If they hold them back, they aren’t going to be worth more. It’s a fun conundrum they’re in. I’m just trying to steal 1.
And I wholeheartedly disagree at a dealer level that losing the $7,500 on this isn’t painful. The manufacturer might help some, but some of that will come from the dealer. The manufacturer might raise RV from 64 to 65, and kick in an extra $1,500 of bonus cash, sure… But these didn’t sell at a lower price, now as the calendar turns to 2026, the 2024 is going to sell for more? Doesn’t make sense to me.
The last thing I just don’t get (I’ve never leased CDJR) is how long does actual support stay on these? 2026? 2047?
I get the feeling @boofat actually built up a rapport with the dealer to actually have them want to sell a car to him. Negging the car a bit to encourage discounts is one thing, but I feel like you’re ramping up your energy too far then getting pissed when the unicorn doesn’t appear.
If I adjust to 24/7.5 and take out taxes, the deal I got was $150 a month. It didn’t take a huge amount of effort, and I think a lot of people here would be ok with that price. The extra effort to drive sub $100 isn’t worth it lol.
@z0lt3c the 2026 RT (non scat) is the one that is cancelled. They’ll likely reduce production and drop the sky high MSRP though.
What I’m saying - they will collect 20-25k incentive stacks on 2024 models through self-dealing in the next 2 days. And list the cars for sale as used at 40k or whatever it can be sold for.
Rapport or no, a deal like that is right place / right time. Oh, we love this guy so much, instead of giving this to the GM’s brother, we’re giving it to some out of state buyer that sent us cookies.
Come on, is that realistic?
The price I got today would be taken by 98% of this forum (it was total, fees/taxes/etc). I don’t even want this car, I just got a brand new f***ing Porsche 3 days ago, like wtf am I doing? I wish I never saw this thread! I just want the deal for like $80 a month, is that so much to ask for? I’m out of hacking for at least 12 months whether I succeed or fail on this one.
I think you coming across as a jerk impedes your deals.
The charger hack may be bringing out some atypical behavior from you… seems you aren’t like this hunting the Porsches and Benz.
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It was a rough day Saturday, I don’t know what came over me. I basically turned into inverse me. For a car I really don’t want or need either. It was a leasing addiction. I walked away, enjoyed the Sunday, and came back to Earth. I’ll keep my eyes open over the next couple of months for a sub $100 lease, move slowly and comfortably, and when the time comes I’ll strike.
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Do you think we’ll still find those deals now that the $7500 rebate is going away?
Two things working against you…
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Stellantis just installed a new CFO; and there seems to be a clear directive to drive profitability and margin enhancement. Assuming the previous CFO already rolled up all the terri-bad junk into his reign, Stellantis has already accrued the incentives budget necessary to move units already in stock. It’s unlikely there will be a large increase of incentives money compared to what we’ve seen.
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There is no more urgency to move EV units in the USA since no automakers are beholden to showing progress towards EV market share and avoidance of the looming clean air penalties. Automakers can just dial back supply and let natural demand pull units through slowly … instead of pushing massive incentives to try and increase sales velocity. Take away the government cheddar, and average net pricing will go up in the coming months at the sake of sales velocity going way down.
And one thing working in your favor…
- Dealers still need to move metal since their entire business model relies on volume. Some desperate dealer will eventually be staring down the barrel of a big flooring line curtailment, penalty, or need to consider moving a unit to used/auction. So some savvy hackr may still pick up a deal. But the deals aren’t going to get “better.”
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I’m in San Diego County but I went to AZ to close my deal. $117/mth, $500 paid up front, 24/10k on Black/Blacktop RT. I originally quoted 7.5k miles and it was $87, so I took the mileage increase to 10k: SIGNED! – See what others paid for their leases
I couldn’t get everyone else’s unicorn out in the Southeast, but got a “unicorn to me’“ deal out of the Southwest (Cali, Nevada, Utah, Arizona). 117/mth, 500 DAS, Black/Blacktop RT.
15% off MSRP, 12.5k lease/ev cash, 1k tdm, 2k affiliate cash, 2k inventory overage cash, 1 BEV coupon. Dealer padded add-ons at $900, so room to squeeze but not for the exact color/package we we’re looking for. Beat every dealer in Cali by over $70/mth with same rebate pricing. Ignore the MF posted on the deal, it’s 0.00017. I couldn’t see where to change it.
They’re all still following up with me, I’ve got one that will e-sign for an $80k Scat Pack. They want $314 all (24/7.5)in Florida taxes/fees. Located near nobody but it can be shipped. I wouldn’t even mention it as I tried getting off this, but with the e sign figure maybe someone wants it.
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