No power deployable running boards
No panoramic sunroof
No 360 degree cameras
Don’t think it comes with adaptive cruise control or lane keep assist.
It had forward emergency braking added very recently.
Naturally aspirated engines have a rough time at high altitudes, you will see a lot more f150s and now ram with etorque in mountainous areas because there’s minimal lost of power… which affects towing, hauling, and fuel mpg.
You can’t sell gobs of upper trim tundra’s when you are competing with trucks @50-70k that are leap years ahead of you and have all the new tech and safety features as well as updated drivetrains.
Work trucks sell in volume but the real profit is made on these luxury trucks where manufacturers make hefty profit on options and packages that they can group together.
The reason you see these deals on tundra’s should tell you all you need to know about how they are selling. Pickup trucks makes up 1 out of 6 cars in the USA, none of the other big 3 have to incentivize leasing their trucks to sell big volume per year.
It’s not a knock on tundra but these 50k+ pickup trucks are turning into the new soccer mom car and you need to keep up with times or you get left behind in the dust. I think tundra’s are one of the more reliable trucks in terms of long term problems and issues… most people are here on this site are here to lease and look for the lowest monthly payments and couldn’t care less about long term longevity… so it’s really a non factor here.
Toyota does well due to reliability. How much do those power running boards cost when they break at 40k miles?
The reason they lease cheap is bc of reliability which equates to high residuals. Once they add all those options the residuals will go out the window like the big 3s.
And it has lane departure and adaptive cruise control. The tech is fine in the sr5. The reason you don’t see more tundras on the road is bc boomers buy what they’re used to and as one told me, “I didn’t fight the japs to turn around and buy their trucks”. Which in turn I told him his ram was built in Mexico likely by a Mexican while the tundra is built in the USA.
Again I’ll say what I said earlier, if Toyota could sell these trucks like the big 3 no way in hell would they incentive leasing. I can gurantee you if the new 2022 truck does well in sales they aren’t going to incentivize leasing for quite a while.
Lol at your boomer comment, many guys in their 60s and 70s have a german car parked next to their american truck… they fought the germans too you know… Don’t know who you have been dealing with but most people I talk to who are big into trucks have tried the tundra and/or even owned/leased a tundra back in the late 2000s and all of them say the truck hasn’t changed one bit while the other trucks are way ahead and aside from gimmicky tech which a lot of older drivers hate they seem to love the safety features, which Toyota was extremely late to add.
Lol power running boards work well past 40k miles… Clearly you have never used them or you would understand how they add extra clearance off-road and in the snow, they also drop lower than regular boards… like I said keeping up with the jones. Lots of soccer moms and dudes buying 50k+ trucks who don’t use them as trucks so you have to add these luxury features to get your money.
Reliability equals higher residuals… that’s a new one. I think its a combination of limited production + limited market/low demand + reliable trucks + incentivizing leasing to keep units moving and the plants busy = cheap tundra and tacoma leases.
You aren’t going to find many buyers looking to lease a tundra at $500/mo when they can go get a ram, f150, or chevy/gmc truck for the same price.
Like I said it’s a niche market, redesigning the truck could propel them into big 3 category or it could be a huge disaster, as a consumer you want more competition I’m obviously rooting for a great new gen truck but im still skeptical as Toyota doesn’t do too much forced induction so not looking great for new powertrain options.
They will never be in the big three sales numbers. But they purchased a shit ton of the same parts for 10+ years of production and are very profitable. Maybe the most profitable car company. A simple look at the 10 year chart of their stock will show that.
Residuals are based on reliability/resale value. And tfs doesn’t lease these cheap at all which is why these $300 deals go through a 3rd party bank. I don’t know how they do it but they wouldn’t be leasing them this cheap if they weren’t profiting as well. I’m sure they have some sketchy accounting going on which is why they can offer a 80% tundra and 88% Tacoma residual. Either way the consumer wins and that’s reflected in the popularity of their leases on this website. I’m 100% positive that they are the highest selling truck on leasehackr. But we only make up a very small percentage of the population.
At the end of the day this is a more then adequate truck for road trips, a second “Home Depot” vehicle and any other use needed for a pick up. And their towing capacity for a non diesel vehicle is great.
Would I pay $500/mo for one, no. But $275/mo for a 48k 24/10 lease, no doubt.
bank must be getting kickback from somewhere, yeah they found a niche market, and it’s a great deal for a truck that’s for a weekend warrior.
I wouldn’t put it past Toyota to make a truck that gives the big 3 a run for their money, but most likely they don’t want to drop that much money in r&d when their bread and butter is economy cars.
Yeah it’s profitable to rely on the same basic design, just look at what dodge is doing with the challenger and charger bodystyles.
There’s no kick back, these trucks will probably last twice as long as the others, especially ram and ford. I grew up with Ford’s but the last decade and a half hasn’t been kind, lots of poor implementation of technology. Apparently the next tundra will have a hybrid, that’ll shake things up. The “new” ram is just a new interior and front clip, amazing what new headlights and an iPad screen do.
Ram owners - we got a 12 inch screen in our truck, what you got?
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but yeah isn’t it strange to see toyota financial not incentivize but a 3rd party bank? No doubt they last twice as long they have a fraction of the tech of the new trucks, no bs auto start/stop, regular transmission, no complicated 4a/4h/4L system, no cameras everywhere, no turbos in the engine, no direct injection?? (I think the tundra’s are fuel injected still) and countless more things that are great under warranty but expensive when out of warranty when it breaks.
You can’t discount a Toyota 15K like they offer on Chevy and GMC. A 50K sticker trail boss is selling for 36K around here and the 56K loaded is 42K. You are not getting a TRD PRO, 1974 or platinum for those prices. Maybe a SR5 for 42K. And the GM’s only come with Rancho shocks as their off-road Z71 upgrade. While others have Fox shocks with res. I agree they could have the option of a better engine but the interior is now on par with all the other pick up trucks when comparing each trim level. The exterior on the sport and TRD Pro are the nicest to me.
Ford Raptor is still the best looking truck in my opinion with the GMC Sierra coming in second. But for the price the tundra has the best overall package.
These guys that say the truck is not bouncy have not been in a car for a while or had a perfectly smooth road.
I have a 19 Crew TRD-Off Road 4x4 and love it!
I however rented a 2019 Malibu to drive a 800 miles R/T trip over 3 days for $84 and got 34.5MPG. So, not only did I save gas I saved the mileage depreciation on the Tundra.
Malibu had Wi-Fi and kept my Wife busy too.
